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#41 ·
Last week, I received an e-mail from SRT Customer Service (as a result of an escalation), telling me that my vehicle was scheduled with an estimated ship date of 1-26 . . . today, they e-mailed me back, saying that now my estimated ship date is 2-9 . . . pretty damn pissed about this--if the vehicle is scheduled, that means they have parts, and everything I find online about the assembly plant, JNAP, says that they are at full capacity, running 24X7, so I don't see where the delay is . . .
 
#44 ·
Someone in one of the FB groups posted this article:

www.prnewswire.com

Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat Orders Full

/PRNewswire/ -- Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat will be built only for the 2021 model year The most powerful SUV ever, the Durango SRT Hellcat delivers 710...
www.prnewswire.com www.prnewswire.com

I don't know the veracity of the article, but it states this:

"The new 2021 Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat goes fast, both literally and figuratively. After opening for orders in November, Durango SRT Hellcat production is officially sold out.

Although Dodge has closed new customer orders, a small number of dealer-allocated units will be available for a limited time. Dodge will build a total of 2,000 2021 Durango SRT Hellcats"
 
#47 ·
I still haven't read or seen anything from an engineering standpoint that explains exactly what the issue is with the hellcat in the durango emissions system, only that it require a significant enough alteration that the investment wouldn't be worth it.

So it begs the question as to whether or not they'll make that investment since they just reinvested in the Durango platform with the new interior and Uconnect redesign as well as the front and rear lights and they love to hellcat all things, or if the platform will move in two years to the new Jeep 3 row platform.

Considering the Hellcat chargers and challengers are ("base" hellcats.. ha, that's funny to say) readily available at steep discounts and large incentive, I don't think there's any sort of manufacturing bottleneck to not just pump out Durango's as well if there's a market.
 
#51 ·
frictioncircle said:
evaporative emissions...which means maybe its farts smell too much🤓......btw selling out in 3 months is promising for future value retention.
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LOL, yeah, that's all I've gotten too. Which tells me literally nothing (emphasis mine):

Dodge could continue to make the Durango SRT Hellcat available for the next few years, except it can’t. With new emissions regulations set to begin for 2022 production the Durango/Hellcat combo won’t meet those numbers. “When we switch to the 2022 model year, there are new evaporative emission requirements that come in that the Hellcat engine does not meet in that platform,” Kuniskis said.
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We know that FCA is still putting the Hellcat in every other platform so there's something unique to the system used on the Durango platform. I'm really interested to know what makes it so different than say the Jeep SRT platform. More reasons why the Durango could be much more specialer than some of the other Hellcats.
 
#52 ·
RancidLunchmeat said:
LOL, yeah, that's all I've gotten too. Which tells me literally nothing (emphasis mine):



We know that FCA is still putting the Hellcat in every other platform so there's something unique to the system used on the Durango platform. I'm really interested to know what makes it so different than say the Jeep SRT platform. More reasons why the Durango could be much more specialer than some of the other Hellcats.
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It's pretty simple really. And your question is exactly why it can't continue. Each year the requirement for emissions regulations (fleet MPG average) continues to climb. 1.5% under Trump, 5% under Obama and most likely Biden too. The target has been as high as 45mpg by 2025. If a fleet goes above (all brand offerings averages combined), they need to buy credits from other OEs, as mentioned above (Tesla). With FCA having so many guzzlers (awesome for us!), they cannot purchase enough as the requirement climbs, and their average does not match the inflation, or in some cases goes the opposite way! So it might be possible that a few hellcat powered and 6.4 powered vehicles will have to go away permanently. I promise you TRX will not be one of them. Hope that helps. Its not an engineering issue whatsoever.
 
#53 ·
Your answer doesn't make sense and ignores FCA's answer that the reason is specifically due to the Durango platform. If your answer were correct, FCA could decide to reduce production of other Hellcat vehicles if they so choose and more likely would have stated your response themselves that it was due to total fleet emissions. Instead, they specially said it was related to the engineering issues regarding the emissions system on this specific platform.

In essence, your answer disregards all of the factual information we have from FCA and replaces it with conjecture that has no support. Please provide some.
 
#54 ·
RancidLunchmeat said:
Your answer doesn't make sense and ignores FCA's answer that the reason is specifically due to the Durango platform. If your answer were correct, FCA could decide to reduce production of other Hellcat vehicles if they so choose and more likely would have stated your response themselves that it was due to total fleet emissions. Instead, they specially said it was related to the engineering issues regarding the emissions system on this specific platform.

In essence, your answer disregards all of the factual information we have from FCA and replaces it with conjecture that has no support. Please provide some.
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When referencing the platform, the statement meant class vs powertrain emissions/epa rating. As stated, they advance each year. So if the DDHC as-is tips the scales too far in MY22 across the fleet, it would require it to be dropped. You could bring engineering in to play and argue ETQ could be added to the 6.2 and other measures to lower the penalty, but not reality at this time. I was not giving an outside opinion or theory, Was trying to shed light on the topic. Everything is a debate these days I guess lol. I'm sure you will give a creative spin on these words, but that is all I would like to share on the topic. Cheers.
 
#57 ·
PistolGrip said:
Reading the posts there are a lot of ship dates that have passed. Does anyone know if any have shipped, have anyone moved passed D1, or does anyone know if they have even started to build yet?
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It appears they have slipped a bit and the initial ship dates have moved into early February. I stopped bugging my dealer until I see some motion from some of the other guys with orders. I don't know if the Durango/JNAP has been hit by the Hellcat engine / circuit board shortage that shuttered the Charger/Challenger/300 plant in Canada for a few weeks.
 
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CWGrizzwold said:
It appears they have slipped a bit and the initial ship dates have moved into early February. I stopped bugging my dealer until I see some motion from some of the other guys with orders. I don't know if the Durango/JNAP has been hit by the Hellcat engine / circuit board shortage that shuttered the Charger/Challenger/300 plant in Canada for a few weeks.
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