Standard output: 400 hp / 450 lb-ft
High Output: 500 hp / 475 lb-ft
“90 percent of peak torque available from 2,350 rpm to redline”
The End for Hemi is closer with 3.0L Inline-6 finally here
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Standard output: 400 hp / 450 lb-ft
High Output: 500 hp / 475 lb-ft
“90 percent of peak torque available from 2,350 rpm to redline”
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Yeah we don’t have much say either.. I’ll be dead long before EVs fully take over so I should be fine limping along my LS6 and Hellcat until the government bans ICE / fuel all together.
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Lawlz. Downgrade for 2K…. out of their minds.
Agree...no way I'd pay an additional $2K for turbo lag, more complexity and only 25hp.
But they did this with the 2.0LT...it was an upgrade over the V6 in the Wrangler and I think the Cherokee?
Dealers will order them that way...and just find someone to buy them.
But they did this with the 2.0LT...it was an upgrade over the V6 in the Wrangler and I think the Cherokee?
Dealers will order them that way...and just find someone to buy them.
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Here's another thing to think about:
The inline six with turbos is touted as having higher mpg as compared to the existing V8s. However, with 20+ psi boost, you probably will be limited to 91 octane gas to get the nominal 15% fuel efficiency increase. Currently, 91 octane fuel is a nominal 20% higher than 87 octane fuel. So even though you are getting better mpg overall, you are spending more $$ to add the gas. So you are saving gas, but spending more money to do so.
As per previous post, where is the non-turbo version of this engine?
The inline six with turbos is touted as having higher mpg as compared to the existing V8s. However, with 20+ psi boost, you probably will be limited to 91 octane gas to get the nominal 15% fuel efficiency increase. Currently, 91 octane fuel is a nominal 20% higher than 87 octane fuel. So even though you are getting better mpg overall, you are spending more $$ to add the gas. So you are saving gas, but spending more money to do so.
As per previous post, where is the non-turbo version of this engine?
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this is a twin turbo inline 6 and should be pretty smooth, this configuration is almost all that BMW uses right now. there will be no non-turbo version according to the articles. but honestly this is what everyone else is doing. turbos and computer management make the engine much more fuel efficient. especially in the EPA standardized calculation. I've heard those are fairly low loads on the engine and make a smaller turbo engine really shine per the calc.
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I wouldn't expect much turbo lag in an engine like this. an I6 is usually torquey to start with. and with smaller turbos, computer management and all that manufactures have learned about routing the plumbing/placement of the turbos lag is cut way down.
some turbo lag maybe at very low end, but honestly couldn't be that different from the 'lazy throttle tip in' that we all experienced with previous model year HEMI's.
Our First Look At The All-New Twin-Turbo 3.0-liter GME-T6 Inline-Six Engine!
One of the worst-kept secrets within the Stellantis North American organization has to be the upcoming twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter GME-T6 inline-six-cylinder engine. Known internally as the “GME-T6” will make its world debut this month at the New York International Auto Show (NYIAS). The new...
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I wouldn't expect much turbo lag in an engine like this. an I6 is usually torquey to start with. and with smaller turbos, computer management and all that manufactures have learned about routing the plumbing/placement of the turbos lag is cut way down.
some turbo lag maybe at very low end, but honestly couldn't be that different from the 'lazy throttle tip in' that we all experienced with previous model year HEMI's.
I think the miss on this engine is not being able to run 87 octane in the non-HO version...if that is what is being reported. I'd be happier if it made the 400+hp on 87...rather than require 91. Which means on 87 it probably would make the same 375hp as the current 5.7L.
Also might get 2mpg more highway...but probably 2mpg less towing..and probably a wash around city.
I'm sure the turbos are very small for quick spin up as they are pushing some big boost through the engine...that said I've not driven a turbo engine equipped vehicle yet that I can't notice any turbo lag..though most won't notice.
Also might get 2mpg more highway...but probably 2mpg less towing..and probably a wash around city.
I'm sure the turbos are very small for quick spin up as they are pushing some big boost through the engine...that said I've not driven a turbo engine equipped vehicle yet that I can't notice any turbo lag..though most won't notice.
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yes, FCA failed getting people to pay extra for the 2.0L in Wrangler and now offer it at a discount to push people into the more CAFE-friendly engine
LOL! That's funny its now discounted $500.
My brother-in-law bought a new Accord V6 a few years ago when the new gen was announced to only be available with a turbo 4. His wife couldn't believe Honda would go to a turbo 4 and drop the V6. Just shows that some people do care what's under the hood.
My brother-in-law bought a new Accord V6 a few years ago when the new gen was announced to only be available with a turbo 4. His wife couldn't believe Honda would go to a turbo 4 and drop the V6. Just shows that some people do care what's under the hood.
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Did you read how the cylinder walls are spray welded with hard material instead of sleeves that makes this POS not rebuildable The block is a throwaway item
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Maybe not in my lifetime but certainly in my 22 year-old son‘s lifetime, who I hope carries on the tradition as a dinosaur ICE gear head, maybe living the reality just like in Rush’s Red Barchetta:
“My uncle has a country place, that no-one knows about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
And on Sundays I elude the ‘Eyes’, and hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire, where my white-haired uncle waits…
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine –
For fifty-odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream
I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta, from a better, vanished time
We’ll fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar!
Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime…
A gleaming alloy air-car shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires, to run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley as another joins the chase…”
“My uncle has a country place, that no-one knows about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
And on Sundays I elude the ‘Eyes’, and hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire, where my white-haired uncle waits…
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine –
For fifty-odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream
I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta, from a better, vanished time
We’ll fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar!
Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime…
A gleaming alloy air-car shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires, to run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley as another joins the chase…”
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