Look what UPS just dropped off

So later today I'll check my PCM to see if Launch is enabled by default. I'll also be pulling the configurations out of the stock PCM, and sending the donor PCM off to HPT for unlocking and loading of my stock configurations ... all in preparation for my Whipple install early next year.

Still haven't had any luck getting an SRT BCM log yet though ...

 

What is the control panel for on the bottom right?

 

It's a panel out of a Hellcat

When I switch "Vehicle is an SRT" to "Yes" in the BCM, the drive mode surface buttons (Track, Sport, Snow, Tow, ECO off) on the TnG become inactive. I assume this is because the SRT and Hellcat's don't have these surface buttons, but have the SRT and Launch buttons instead.

So I purchased a panel from a Hellcat to install when/if I get the SRT Dashboard to finally show up so I can have functional surface buttons.

 

I was thinking that after I typed it out.

 

I was able to read the PCM today, and it looks like Launch is not enabled by default.

It looks like some of the tables are populated and some are not. I wonder if I can enable this, after my donor PCM is unlocked, and before I get Whipple to modify the calibrations ... will have to do some research. I plan to go to a tuner in Houston in a couple of weeks and do a baseline dyno pull, prior to the Whipple install in March. So I can pick his brain while I'm there as he has experience with Hellcats ... so I'll bet he'll know what these tables do and how they might be setup for a Whipple'd 5.7

Interesting in Engine, general ... it has fields and values for "Red Key". I wonder if I can enable that, since I'll have two new teenage drivers in the house. Would be nice to have a black key for them with stock power levels, and a red key for me and the wife for supercharger levels.

 

Looks like you need to head on over to the HP tuners forum.

 

Ha! Actually, I was over there earlier today when my 1st attempt to read the PCM failed.

Failed to Read and Save - 2023 Durango R/T

The guy who chimed in wasn't much help, but I ended up resolving it anyway. I found it ironic the guy's signature states "HP Tuners Dealer and Tech Support", but he gave me incorrect info twice.

The shop I'm trying to get on the dyno of in Houston is Peitz Performance Tunes. I've been watching Alex Peitz's training videos on YouTube, which were sponsored by HP Tuners. Its about 10 hours worth of videos and I'm almost done. Great stuff! He has two sessions on superchargers even. Very knowledgeable guy and showcases a couple of Hemis.

My in-laws live about 20 mins from his shop, so when we go down to visit I'm hoping to get away one afternoon to get a baseline dyno done and chat with him a bit. Then after I install the Whipple in my garage come March, I can drive on the canned Whipple tune for a bit, and the next time we go visit the in-laws, try to schedule a dyno tune session with Alex.

I figure having a baseline showing the engine's NA characteristics would be helpful to dial in the supercharger.

 

Yeah so you don't need a bypass or unlocked PCM to read a tune, only when writing a tune provided you have credits. Same goes with alfa.

FWIW I put together a thread with a list of other threads that have helped me tuning my challenger.

New to dodge tuning and trying to find out the basic steps

I have been reading and reading on this forum and its really hard to pull all the useful info (That relates to almost stock setups) out of the threads since most of the threads either start with blown or cammed motors or end up there anyway. So what I am looking for is how to tweek the tune to...

forum.hptuners.com

If you were able to get the launch instructions to show up on the EVIC then enabling it in the PCM should get it to work BUT this is true for challengers/chargers...and has yet to be proven on durangos. I am x'ing my fingers you get it to work.

 

Thanks, your list of bookmarks is definitely helpful!

As for the EVIC, I can't get the SRT Dashboard tab to replace the Performance tab in the Vehicle app, which is where I think a BCM read from an SRT 392 will help. I even tried installing the HC panel and using the SRT and Launch hard buttons, but they did nothing even when "Vehicle is an SRT" was set to "Yes"

There's something in the uConnect which is preventing the SRT dashboard from showing.

One difference between the HC BCM read and my TnG read is "Super Track Pack" is enabled on mine but not enabled on the HC. I wondered if the STP setting is conflicting with the Vehicle is an SRT setting thus causing the uConnect to keep the "Performance" tab instead of displaying the "SRT" tab.

When I turn STP off, I get DIC errors for ABS, FCW, etc ... I tried an ABS recalibrate to clear them but it didn't help.

What's frustrating is I can get the SRT splash screen and the little SRT text does appear on top of the Vehicle app icon, so the uConnect is recognizing the "Vehicle is an SRT" setting change ... but it just won't display the SRT tab instead of the Performance tab no matter what combination of options I try.

 

There's something in the uConnect which is preventing the SRT dashboard from showing.

Try factory resetting the Uconnect when you have the options in the PCM set. If that does not work, try flashing it with the latest firmware since that removes anything cached about the vehicle.
When the UC5 fires up it would read the computer systems and pull data that it needs to decide what to show. My UC5 thinks my R/T is a GT. LOL (J/K)

 

It will do the same version. I did it back with 23. something because it 1st gave my the Chrysler pacifica theme (light blue) so I did it again and it was fine but that firmware is what took my helmets away. I want my helmets back!

Do you have AlfaOBD? You can get your helmets back easily!

I posted this in the AlfaOBD Master Thread

If you set "Special Package" under VehConfig 1 to "WD SRT", the helmets appear on the guys in the Comfort pages

Do you happen to have the latest uConnect firmware file? I can't seem to find it. When I go to the official software update page, it just tells me my unit is already up to date and doesn't give me the download link.

 

Do you have AlfaOBD? You can get your helmets back easily!

I posted this in the AlfaOBD Master Thread



Do you happen to have the latest uConnect firmware file? I can't seem to find it. When I go to the official software update page, it just tells me my unit is already up to date and doesn't give me the download link.

I do not have AlfaOBD. That is too dangerous for me to play with

Checking on the Uconnect file

 

I have the file. gonna post it in a minute

 

Click

 

do ou mind if i have this file as well?

 

Duh-rango shared it with me.

I think the firmware came from @Vice-White? I only shared the BCM logs.

 

I think the firmware came from @Vice-White? I only shared the BCM logs.

I know nothing.

 

WOOT!!

THANK YOU @Vice-White for the suggestion of the firmware update and for sending me the file. Interestingly, when I inserted the USB, it just told me there was a newer version available and went through the update process. It never showed me a comparison of my existing version vs. the version on the USB. But after the update finished, the "Dashboard" tab appeared in place of the "Performance" tab ... along with custom drive modes being functional!

For the Sport popup not appearing in the DIC (as I describe in the video), I tried turning "Sport Mode Present" to "Off" in the BCM, as it's set to "Off" in the Hellcat BCM ... but that didn't fix it. Not sure if it's preventing sport mode from activating or not, but in either case, this is great progress! I'll continue to investigate the pop up issue and also test if it's actually enabling the drive mode when selected.

I also now have "Drive Modes" and "Race Options" apps showing up in the Vehicle app listing.

So in summary ... to get Drive Modes in a Tow and Go, here is what I did:

• Swapped out my console for a Hellcat console to get the SRT and Launch buttons
  • This is not necessary, but the TnG panel drive mode buttons will no longer function after setting "Vehicle is an SRT" to "Yes" in the BCM.
• Used AlfaOBD to make the following changes to the BCM:
  • Memory Drive Mode Sub-feature Configuration: Yes
  • ESC Drive Mode Sub-Feature Configuration: Yes
  • Configuration For Performance & Gear Shift Indication: Performance shift indication
  • Vehicle is an SRT: Yes
  • Sport Mode Present: (I tried both Yes and No and saw no difference)
• Then I flashed the uConnect firmware using a 4GB USB stick
  • See post #105 for the firmware file

I'm not sure if the "Configuration For Performance & Gear Shift Indication" option actually did anything, but I noticed it was set to "Performance shift indication" in the Hellcat, so I made the change. This may be what enables the shift light in Race Options maybe?

I'm also now wondering if I reinstall the TnG console panel, if the surface drive mode buttons won't still function. Honestly, I'd rather have quick access to the drive modes which we use all the time rather than a Launch button which we'll use rarely (after enabling it in the PCM of course). I'll try this out some time later tonight. EDIT: They do not function

I also attached my current BCM log to this post, if anyone wants to compare it to theirs

 

WOOT!!

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THANK YOU @Vice-White for the suggestion of the firmware update and for sending me the file. Interestingly, when I inserted the USB, it just told me there was a newer version available and went through the update process. It never showed me a comparison of my existing version vs. the version on the USB. But after the update finished, the "Dashboard" tab appeared in place of the "Performance" tab ... along with custom drive modes being functional!

For the Sport popup not appearing in the DIC (as I describe in the video), I tried turning "Sport Mode Present" to "Off" in the BCM, as it's set to "Off" in the Hellcat BCM ... but that didn't fix it. Not sure if it's preventing sport mode from activating or not, but in either case, this is great progress! I'll continue to investigate the pop up issue and also test if it's actually enabling the drive mode when selected.

I also now have "Drive Modes" and "Race Options" apps showing up in the Vehicle app listing.

So in summary ... to get Drive Modes in a Tow and Go, here is what I did:

• Swapped out my console for a Hellcat console to get the SRT and Launch buttons
  • Not sure if the console is needed. Will test it later to see
• Used AlfaOBD to make the following changes to the BCM:
  • Memory Drive Mode Sub-feature Configuration: Yes
  • ESC Drive Mode Sub-Feature Configuration: Yes
  • Configuration For Performance & Gear Shift Indication: Performance shift indication
  • Vehicle is an SRT: Yes
  • Sport Mode Present: (I tried both Yes and No and saw no difference)
• Then I flashed the uConnect firmware using a 4GB USB stick

I'm not sure if the "Configuration For Performance & Gear Shift Indication" option actually did anything, but I noticed it was set to "Performance shift indication" in the Hellcat, so I made the change. This may be what enables the shift light in Race Options maybe?

I'm also now wondering if I reinstall the TnG console panel, if the surface drive mode buttons won't still function. Honestly, I'd rather have quick access to the drive modes which we use all the time rather than a Launch button which we'll use rarely (after enabling it in the PCM of course). I'll try this out some time later tonight.

I also attached my current BCM log to this post, if anyone wants to compare it to theirs

im really curious to try setting SRT to yes on the tazer , then reloading the uconnect software to see if it shows up...

 

I tried swapped the TnG dash panel back in as a test, and the drive mode surface buttons still do not work. I'll bet it's possible to remap them, like the Tazer can do with other buttons, but I have no idea how to do that. I contacted zAutomotive when I started this journey and they did seem interested in my findings, so I'll reach back out and see if they have any interest in trying to add these features to the Tazer. I could see activating the SRT dashboard/drive modes, along with remapping the TnG drive mode surface buttons, being a real selling point for the Tazer. Of course this would only work on a TnG as changing "Vehicle is an SRT" to "Yes" on a non-TnG R/T sets off various ABS and FCW errors.

So I swapped the Hellcat panel back in and went for a drive to try a few things out.

1st of all, sport mode is activating even though I don't get the "Sport" pop up or icon in the DIC. So that's good news. All drive modes work and the customization of the options works perfectly. I'm going to love the "Custom" drive mode

The shift light and launch mode screens all functional normally in terms of navigation and on-screen behavior ... but they don't actually engage anything when selected. I believe this is because the PCM needs to be adjusted, which I'll do when I get my unlocked PCM back from HPT.

It's weird "Sport" mode is the only drive mode which doesn't flash up a DIC pop-up or show a drive mode icon in the DIC when activated. I suppose it's worth noting the DIC cluster still shows the "R/T" menu item in it and not the "SRT" menu item. I'm not sure if it's possible to get the cluster to show the SRT menu instead, but if it was ... maybe that would resolve the Sport mode activation not showing the pop-up?

EDIT: We've since discovered more about the "Sport" EVIC splash. It seems to be tied to the actual Sport Mode button itself, instead of the uConnect selection. Maybe because non-SRT and non-TnG models (ie: Standard R/T and GT models) have Sport so the splash can't be tied to the uConnect due to those not having any screens for the sport mode? In any case, here's a video showing what I discovered through testing:

 

I tried swapped the TnG dash panel back in as a test, and the drive mode surface buttons still do not work. I'll bet it's possible to remap them, like the Tazer can do with other buttons, but I have no idea how to do that. I contacted zAutomotive when I started this journey and they did seem interested in my findings, so I'll reach back out and see if they have any interest in trying to add these features to the Tazer. I could see activating the SRT dashboard/drive modes, along with remapping the TnG drive mode surface buttons, being a real selling point for the Tazer. Of course this would only work on a TnG as changing "Vehicle is an SRT" to "Yes" on a non-TnG R/T sets off various ABS and FCW errors.

So I swapped the Hellcat panel back in and went for a drive to try a few things out.

1st of all, sport mode is activating even though I don't get the "Sport" pop up or icon in the DIC. So that's good news. All drive modes work and the customization of the options works perfectly. I'm going to love the "Custom" drive mode

The shift light and launch mode screens all functional normally in terms of navigation and on-screen behavior ... but they don't actually engage anything when selected. I believe this is because the PCM needs to be adjusted, which I'll do when I get my unlocked PCM back from HPT.

It's weird "Sport" mode is the only drive mode which doesn't flash up a DIC pop-up or show a drive mode icon in the DIC when activated. I suppose it's worth noting the DIC cluster still shows the "R/T" menu item in it and not the "SRT" menu item. I'm not sure if it's possible to get the cluster to show the SRT menu instead, but if it was ... maybe that would resolve the Sport mode activation not showing the pop-up?

Did you still have the dashboard and the ability to do custom modes with the TNG panel in?

 

The wife is out running errands today, and just called to tell me the SRT surface button wasn't working anymore. I had her go into the Vehicle app, and it's reverted to only showing the Performance tab again

Somehow the system must have updated last night and reverted the changes. I'll have to plug in later today to see what changed. Wondering if the BCM reverted settings, or if something else happened causing the original problem which was solved by forcing a firmware update to come back.

Someone on a facebook group told me .... "Drive modes in the display is done by the DTCM next to the suspension control module under the seat". I wonder if there's a setting in the DTCM (is this the traction control module?) which caused the system to revert?

 

This almost sounds like I would lose performance pages on my RT challenger. As soon as I got a 3G signal it would disappear. To get it to reappear I would have to reset the radio to factory defaults, but then it would disappear again.

 

Was it the Chassis Type change which eventually got it to stick?

 

Why would the chassis type change just because of a cell signal to FU-Connect?

 

It wouldn't, but something is telling the vehicle it shouldn't have a feature which is enabled. I figured maybe it was a misalignment between the specific feature which is enabled and the chassis type.

I haven't had a chance to do anything with it today, hoping to have some time tonight.

 

I had a chance to quickly look at this after work. The drive modes and race options are still there, just not showing in the dashboard tab within the Vehicle app for some reason.

and the SRT hard button wasn’t working.

So I checked the app listing, and see the shortcuts for both listed

So I pressed Drive Modes, and the panel opened up without issue and is functional.

So I went to the Home Screen, and now the SRT hard button is working again. But the Vehicle app’s Dashboard tab still only shows performance pages.

I tried a hard reset of the radio (holding the power button in for 10 or so seconds), but that didn’t change anything.

in the meantime, I added “Drive Modes” to her home screen’s shortcut widget, just in case the SRT hard button stops working again. No time to investigate today, but I’ll dig in a bit deeper when I have time.

 

I pulled a BCM log today, just to see what the TnG parameters are set to, and to compare them to the 2021 Hellcat log.

 

I pulled a BCM log today, just to see what the TnG parameters are set to, and to compare them to the 2021 Hellcat log.

Pulled a BCM log from what year/model?

 

What I used to do to get software from uconnect is to go to cargurus, grab a VIN and then enter it in the uconnect site. But if the vehicle is already updated over air then the files will not show.

 

 

i swear this firmware feels snappier too. was this the newest update?!

 

I’ve had an extremely hectic and busy couple months, I haven’t drove the Durango since before my last post, my apologies for not helping with this. Late last night I had the chance to mess with this, the 12+8 cable worked fine. I first made the change to get the helmets, it didn't seem to work until I noticed it added a profile option which did include the helmets. After that I made all the changes you listed above to get the drive modes and race options, and after updating the firmware it was now as an SRT, but the drive modes and race options weren’t there. As I was messing with it I noticed the screen glitch, and race options appeared, shortly after that it glitched again and drive modes appeared.
I messed with it for a few minutes, and then drive modes completely disappeared, no app or anything, then race modes disappeared too, both in the dashboard section and the apps section, completely gone. Btw I still have the T&G control panel. So then I reset the radio by holding the far left and far right button in for well over a minute, again, they slowly reappeared, then disappeared a few minutes later.
I have a feeling the control panel has something to do with this, but also the Engine/Trans calibrations. I do have 4 new SRT Durangos nearby that I will try to get a copy of their BCM settings this upcoming week.
I also noticed that the vacuum/boost and intercooler temperature gauges are not showing in the gauges section, even though I’m pretty sure the hellcats do, my TRX does. Again, this could be because it’s not seeing hardware it needs to get a signal from.
I have a feeling to get this to work properly everything has to be setup as a SRT, and possibly completely disabling the engine eco mode.

 

 

@Ddart69340 Post a current copy of your BCM file, as it sits right now when you got the options to appear.

 

I’ll try to post it yet today. Have your apps for the drive modes and race options stayed, or did they disappear completely too? I know that with my TRX and many other SRT vehicles, the race and drive mode apps just disappear sometimes, but then they reappear. I’m sure it’s in the firmware that if there’s something wrong it disables it, it’s just a matter of figuring out what all is needed and not needed.
I did wonder something. I left my 12+8 cable just plugged in, it’s still plugged in, but yet everything seems to work fine. What is the box under the passenger dash that I unplugged and plugged the 12+8 cable into? I’m surprised it doesn’t throw any faults or anything.

 

On a side note, this is the Dashboard of a local 2023 SRT that I plan to go see if I can pull the bcm file from. I wonder why the Dashboard is different than ours? In ours are we seeing what’s in a hellcat Durango and maybe that’s causing some additional problems?

 

check the radio software version too if you dont mind 😜

 

I’ll try to post it yet today. Have your apps for the drive modes and race options stayed, or did they disappear completely too?

In mine, the apps disappear from the dashboard but stay in the main app screen as well as stay on the shortcuts. The SRT hard button works as well, until I switch profiles (between me and the wife). If we change profiles, then the hard button ceases to function. We need to then open the drive mode screen with the shortcut one time, then the hard surface button continues to work even after power cycles and drive cycles ... until we switch profiles again.

I did wonder something. I left my 12+8 cable just plugged in, it’s still plugged in, but yet everything seems to work fine. What is the box under the passenger dash that I unplugged and plugged the 12+8 cable into? I’m surprised it doesn’t throw any faults or anything.

That shouldn't cause any issues. I've left the zAuto bypass module in place for weeks, as well as left the HP Tuners security bypass in place as well. Neither being there has caused any issues.

The box you are unplugging is a security box ... like network security. It's meant to prevent malicious actors from being able to program the vehicle without a dealer tool. You are simply bypassing the security which is built into that physical box.

On a side note, this is the Dashboard of a local 2023 SRT that I plan to go see if I can pull the bcm file from. I wonder why the Dashboard is different than ours? In ours are we seeing what’s in a hellcat Durango and maybe that’s causing some additional problems?
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Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I'm anxious to see a SRT 392 BCM read. I'm wondering if it's something to do with the chassis type, or maybe the special vehicle parameter? Since I only have the Hellcat BCM to go off of, it makes sense the changes I've used would cause the screen to look more like the Hellcat instead of the SRT.

If you post your current BCM, I can compare it to mine to see if anything jumps out as to why your apps keep disappearing and mine don't.

And if you can get a SRT 392 log, that would be awesome!

I now have an unlocked engine PCM ready to install (in support of a Whipple supercharger install coming in Feb), but haven't yet swapped it in; as I don't want to set off P1400 code until I'm closer to the supercharger install.

I wonder if there's a setting in the PCM which would be related? The only one I know of though is "Launch". Which I wouldn't think would be needed for this, but maybe the system has some sort of validation check using "Launch" as a confirmation of vehicle type? I wouldn't think so, but I'm just trying to think of all possibilities at this stage.

When I get close to my Whipple supercharger install, I will be swapping the PCM out and changing the settings to enable Launch ... so will find out then if we don't have it figured out beforehand,

 

In mine, the apps disappear from the dashboard but stay in the main app screen as well as stay on the shortcuts. The SRT hard button works as well, until I switch profiles (between me and the wife). If we change profiles, then the hard button ceases to function. We need to then open the drive mode screen with the shortcut one time, then the hard surface button continues to work even after power cycles and drive cycles ... until we switch profiles again.



That shouldn't cause any issues. I've left the zAuto bypass module in place for weeks, as well as left the HP Tuners security bypass in place as well. Neither being there has caused any issues.

The box you are unplugging is a security box ... like network security. It's meant to prevent malicious actors from being able to program the vehicle without a dealer tool. You are simply bypassing the security which is built into that physical box.



Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I'm anxious to see a SRT 392 BCM read. I'm wondering if it's something to do with the chassis type, or maybe the special vehicle parameter? Since I only have the Hellcat BCM to go off of, it makes sense the changes I've used would cause the screen to look more like the Hellcat instead of the SRT.

If you post your current BCM, I can compare it to mine to see if anything jumps out as to why your apps keep disappearing and mine don't.

And if you can get a SRT 392 log, that would be awesome!

I now have an unlocked engine PCM ready to install (in support of a Whipple supercharger install coming in Feb), but haven't yet swapped it in; as I don't want to set off P1400 code until I'm closer to the supercharger install.

I wonder if there's a setting in the PCM which would be related? The only one I know of though is "Launch". Which I wouldn't think would be needed for this, but maybe the system has some sort of validation check using "Launch" as a confirmation of vehicle type? I wouldn't think so, but I'm just trying to think of all possibilities at this stage.

When I get close to my Whipple supercharger install, I will be swapping the PCM out and changing the settings to enable Launch ... so will find out then if we don't have it figured out beforehand,

Well I finally moved back across the country again...and picked up a 12+8 cable and got the Tazer working on the TnG. Apologies for ghosting this thread!

Youve made incredible progress and its been like a Christmas present reading that youve got the SRT drive pages to actually show up in a TnG!!🎁😬🫶🏼

Hopefully Z Auto is following and implementing 😬