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Discussion starter · #41 ·
At room temp you can drop the pan and catch all the trans fluid. Measure it put the same amount back in with a couple ounces extra. Or you can do the routine. Me personally I would do the room temp method, not sure how you can go wrong with that way. Get the Dorman pan as well.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and couldn’t really think of a negative. The Dorman has the replaceable filter and is a little cheaper correct? And also, thing I read that the newer OEM lose the drain plug?

Have you changed yours? Any plans to change it?
 
So, just went outside and didn’t hear the pump prime and banged both sides of the tank but nothing. It’s so odd for it just to cut out at idle and nothing after. I know mechanical devices fail but man, usually pump will crap out a little and effect drivability some bogging, then cut but this thing was just instant off and doesn’t even try to send fuel. I guess I’m trying to eliminate anything else first since getting to the pump is more than ridiculous. Why dodge couldn’t have popped in an access port…well nevermind, cost them 20 bucks in parts and then I guess they can’t get over 1 to 3k for a repair. Pretty crappy to think the pump could be dead after less than 5 years and under 70k if the pump ends up being the culprit.

Is there anything else I should be looking at?
I have a 13 Durango and they had recalls concerning potential fuel pump relay issues. Maybe check that out?
 
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing and couldn’t really think of a negative. The Dorman has the replaceable filter and is a little cheaper correct? And also, thing I read that the newer OEM lose the drain plug?

Have you changed yours? Any plans to change it?
The Dorman does have a drain plug. My R/T has 23k on it so I am not ready to do a service. I will do it around 75k if I still own this beast.
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
Just some thoughts to the OP, (I know I'm late to the game, and that this maybe 'captain obvious' territory) but......
Did you clean out the tank? > Clean & Inspect the old pump? > Bench test the old pump? Bench test the New pump?
Thanks! Going to work on it tomorrow, haven’t touched it since I took it down while I waited for parts. Tomorrow I’ll pull the old pump. Honestly, at 68k miles even if it benched ok I would be hesitant to pop it back in there regardless. Could very well jostle it around when I pull it and it could work then stop in 1k miles and I am back to more labor. I’ll follow up on Sunday.
 
Discussion starter · #46 ·
The Dorman does have a drain plug. My R/T has 23k on it so I am not ready to do a service. I will do it around 75k if I still own this beast.
I am going to do it in the next month or two and I’ll report back. But, strongly considering dump and fill (pan change of course) unless someone can give me a compelling reason why that wouldn’t work.
 
When I had my tank out, I went ahead and replaced the auxiliary unit as well. I am not sure it was necessary since it is really just a siphon from the primary pump on the driver side. The only electrical portion is the fuel level sending unit. I replaced my fuel pump with a KPM1000 since I have some performance components installed. I sourced my auxiliary sending unit from eBay thinking it may be associated with my original issues. Turns out, there were other things that needed to be sorted out.

Hats off to you for dropping the tank on Jack stands. I did the same and it was not a fun process.
I was about to say the same but wasn't sure the '21 was the same as my '15.... it's just a piece of plastic and gauge sensor (2 wires only). Fuel pump pulls gas from both sides of the tank 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Discussion starter · #48 ·
I was about to say the same but wasn't sure the '21 was the same as my '15.... it's just a piece of plastic and gauge sensor (2 wires only). Fuel pump pulls gas from both sides of the tank 🤷🏻‍♂️
Yeah once I got a good look at it, I sent it back. Not much to go wrong there really.
 
Luis:
Were the tools AND the shield there, or just the shield? Regardless, this tells you the tanks has probably been down before you took it down.

Don
 
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Luis:
Were the tools AND the shield there, or just the shield? Regardless, this tells you the tanks has probably been down before you took it down.

Don
Lol, no just the shield, it wasn’t down before. I’ve had it since it was basically zero miles. What happened was it’s been a week and I think at some point when the tank came out I moved it to the side and forgot where it went. When I noticed the heat shield AFTER I put the tank in I finally figured out where it went thanks to a cool dude at the dodge parts center. He couldn’t find it by part number so we walked into his service center and lo and behold? They had a Durango with the tank out and the shield sitting up there. I pulled the tank down a bit and was able to get it back up there. Phew…
 
Discussion starter · #53 ·
Well folks, that’s all she wrote. Pulled the pump this morning and the tank was nice and clean inside. For giggles went ahead and ran some juice to the old pump and nada. Tested the wires to the pump before the terminal and at the terminal and had continuity but the pump was dead as a dear knob.

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Got everything back together, mucked around an hour trying to figure out where that extra bit of aluminum came from AFTER the tank was up…lol…

She cranked right up, no problem.

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Also had some fun, giving her some gas without the exhaust on, woof hemi sounds good with the exhaust opened up!

Again, many thanks for everyone who helped out in giving me input along the way. Time for a couple of drinks and some boxing tonight. Just watched Usyk beat the brakes off Dubois after the sun beat them off me and my pops today. Lucky to still have him around and capable to still help out with this kinda stuff.
 
Well folks, that’s all she wrote. Pulled the pump this morning and the tank was nice and clean inside. For giggles went ahead and ran some juice to the old pump and nada. Tested the wires to the pump before the terminal and at the terminal and had continuity but the pump was dead as a dear knob.

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Got everything back together, mucked around an hour trying to figure out where that extra bit of aluminum came from AFTER the tank was up…lol…

She cranked right up, no problem.

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Also had some fun, giving her some gas without the exhaust on, woof hemi sounds good with the exhaust opened up!

Again, many thanks for everyone who helped out in giving me input along the way. Time for a couple of drinks and some boxing tonight. Just watched Usyk beat the brakes off Dubois after the sun beat them off me and my pops today. Lucky to still have him around and capable to still help out with this kinda stuff.
Way to go, great job!
 
Luis:
Ya know what they say about working on fuel pumps?
It's a GAS, GAS, GAS! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Sorry, it's Sunday morning. Just had to do it.

Don
 
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Discussion starter · #56 ·
Luis:
Ya know what they say about working on fuel pumps?
It's a GAS, GAS, GAS! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Sorry, it's Sunday morning. Just had to do it.

Don
Lol, perfect actually! Would have responded sooner but changed pads all the way around yesterday, brake fluid and the the PCV while I was at it and had my tent out still covering the truck. It needed brakes and now I need a break! Lol, sorry it’s Monday and I couldn’t help myself either!
 
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