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2001 Durango "Big Red" - My Daily Driver (that I constantly tinker with)

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"Big Red"

2001 Dodge Durango SLT 5.9L

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Ok so I bought my 2001 Durango SLT with 186k miles on it from a nice family in Chicago. It was bought brand new and garaged it's entire life. I paid $1700 for it. Yeah, I got a good deal. I actually got pulled over just outside of Chicago because I had no plates and as I explained to the cop why I was driving a vehicle without plates - I told him I "stole" it. Wrong choice of words. He looked at me funny at first but quickly understood what I meant... after checking all my credentials of course. Here is a photo of her that same night just moments after getting pulled over.


So, when I got her home I replaced the driver's side window regulator. A couple weeks later the passenger side went out as well and was also replaced. They seem sluggish though. Not sure why. Also, I did a complete tune-up... was very surprised to learn that Durangos have no replaceable fuel filter. I was very saddened by this. I do run Techron and Seafoam often enough that I hope I'm keeping everything clean. I swear by both. Techron is scientifically proven to be a good fuel system detergent and I use Seafoam because I've seen it in action on older vehicles. It's amazing stuff. I run a half bottle in my fuel and another half bottle in my oil just before and after every oil change. I run Techron as often as I can afford it but try to run it through a tank at least once every two or three tanks, Back to the tun-up though; I changed the plugs to regular OEM style plugs (I usually try to upgrade on my other vehicles but I've learned that these Magnum engines prefer those basic OEM style plugs). I ran the premium Bosch lifetime wires and Duralast Gold cap and rotor kit from AutoZone. Synthetic blend Castrol GTX motor oil with a quart of Lucas oil. I always run a quart of Lucas in everything I own and Synthetic blends are MUCH cheaper than full synthetics with just as much bang for the buck. Don't get me started on the "science" because I'll prove you wrong and have you surfing the web for hours following my sources, lol! Full synthetic just isn't worth the extra money for the .003 increase in durability compared to a blend. Plus I don't care what Anyone says... you still need to change your filter at least every 3k and the way I see it... if I'm going to be down there getting dirty - I might as well change the oil too if I'm changing the filter. Dino starts to break down at 3k miles. I just change it every 3k and don't take any chances. These manufacturers recommending 12k oil changes....? Wow! Not me. I'll waste another $25 and be safe. That's why all my vehicles have high miles and don't leak oil or burn oil and they run great. Changing oil properly (every 3k) is the #1 most important thing you can do to keep your engine running. But hey... to each their own. So yeah... I did a full tune-up. I even replaced the gas cap just for shits and giggles. :)

It was totally stock besides a high output/flow catalytic converter. It had no problems besides a check-engine light for the front o2 sensor and that driver's side window regulator. BUT after replacing the o2 sensor and installing a single in/single out flowmaster... I ended up with another code. I was told I'd have to deal with it due to the exhaust setup and back pressure. BUT I thought to myself... it's able to blow a lot of air OUT but it's not sucking enough IN. Probably why the code kept popping on. So I installed a cold-air intake. Code disappeared. Here's a pic of my $30 cold-air intake setup! I know there are other fixes - but this made more sense to me and I wanted the cold-air intake anyway!


I did end up with another code though... I forget the actual number but it's the code for a cylinder 4 misfire. I don't feel it when driving her down the road but it's noticeable at idling speeds for sure. She's burning oil and my mpg has dropped big time. I've ran a compression check, spark check and even replaced the injector. A good friend of mind thinks it's a bad valve. Maybe. But I know those shitty stock plenum intake gaskets can cause all sorts of weird issues and when I ran the foamy kind of Seafoam directly into the intake... it killed the light for a little while and eventually came back on. If it was a valve the light would never have shut off. I think the Seafoam cleaned everything up inside there and helped regulate pressure thus killing the bad code. Then when the grime built back up and the seafoam was all burned up... the light popped back on. I've used Hughes' repair kits before on an old 318 that had crazy ridiculous problems that didn't even make sense.... once we did the "repair" - it solved Everything. Those guys at Hughes really have something and they're super nice on the phone and in person as well. I'm going to swap mine out - worst case... I still have the problem but I'll still feel like I gave my engine another upgrade! Going to replace that stupid metal inlet valve/hose and the thermostat while I'm down there as well. And again, just for shits and giggles... figure I'll replace the coil as well. I bought the AutoZone Gold with the lifetime as well. Will be a fun project!

Moving on.... I put the biggest tires on there that would fit without rubbing or alterations. I wanted an aggressive tread pattern but nothing too crazy (or expensive) so I went with the Cooper RT's 10-plys. They look great and should last me quite awhile. Anyone have any experience with these personally? I got them because they were affordable and a buddy of mine had the exact same ones on his D. His were three years old and they still looked new - and this was his daily driver too!

After being up underneath her changing tires, I found some flaws. Nothing horrible or life threatening but it was time to change ball joints. They uppers weren't "bad" but the lowers were looking rough. Maybe it was the other way around. I can't remember, but I changed both anyways. She could use new tie-rod ends and an alignment but she'll be fine for now. Alignment is pretty darn accurate. I also went ahead and replaced the front brake hardware with new lifetime Gold pads and rotors from Autozone. Drums looked good in the back but I replaced the hardware and shoes anyways just because. While I was down there I decided that shocks would be a good idea as well. At almost 200k I'm sure she appreciates them... the ones we pulled off were original. Surprisingly though, she didn't ride much smoother. I did buy a stiffer shock though for the occasional hauling I do.

Next I installed my sound system with a basic JVC head unit recessed in the dash rather than sticking out an inch (hate that!!) along with a voltage booster, a 1k watt Massive amp and dual 15" Massive RGW subs in a slot ported box and a 50w/12v capaciter. I'm pushing about 4 volts and running a steady 700 watts and they pound. Most folks don't realize that you can get a LOT of sound out of a cheaper setup as long as your "line-out" voltage is high. My booster/Eq goes up to 8v. But that will burn shit up. I like to keep it at about half that... same with amp. That way you can beat the shit out of them and never have to worry about blowing anything up. Most people can't believe I only have the 1000w amp and the mid-grade 15" subs. I blow away guys with twice that.... but that's because they're not running booster/EQ's and most stock stereo decks only push 1.5v. If you want 3v - you'll be paying over a grand for the deck. Boosters are under a hundred bucks. So yeah... sound system kicks ass.

I ordered and installed a grill guard which you can see in my photos.

Next, I installed underglow lights. I couldn't decide on a color to accent the Red Durango (Did I mention I hate red!? I just don't like the look. Maybe its because all our cars growing up were red. Lame.) so I went with a multi-color flexible LED setup. I usually just let it run on "cycle" mode where it just runs through all the different patterns and colors at random. Here she is shortly after installing the underglow LED kit with the current setting on blue.


Then, I wrecked the poor girl. The grill guard saved Big Red.... she would have been totaled. But because of the grill guard, it only dented the bumper (which was a clean dent because it was easily popped out with heat and with no evidence of there ever being any damage). It hit hard enough that it popped the tire off the wheel. It dent the condenser in a bit but it survived as well. It took out a headlight and I was forced to readjust the hinges on my hood - but... she turned out ok for being slammed into a ditch at 40mph. If not for the grill guard catching the way it did on the other end of the ditch.... she would have ended up on her side. The tow truck almost pulled her over on her side too. It was crazy. I may have been showing off (yes, I was sober) and it was snowing and slick. I wasn't using the 4x4... I was having fun. I tried to pull out of the "bad idea" at the last second but it was too late and my gut was correct in telling me that the mound of slush was a LOT deeper than it looked. It could have been a LOT worse. It prevented the air bags from blowing (thank God!) but of course if it was a bad accident... I'd have really wanted those air bags - I'm sure. But anyway, it totaled the grill guard and did $3k of damage to the truck. It also bent the frame. It didn't hurt her structurally - but the front frame mounts were bent in on the one side thus preventing me from putting a new grill guard on without some modification or serious repairs. These aren't the best pics, but you can kind of see the dented bumper. Also below is a shot of the bent frame rail.


Since then, I've repaired everything but the frame. I have a new grill guard but it's not on yet for obvious reasons. I just don't want to spend $600 to fix something that's not hurting anything and can't even be seen. So I'm going to pull out what I can and then use some spacers to make the grill guard fit on there correctly. I'm sure it will be "soft" if I have another collision in that spot again... but I don't intend to do so, lol!

I've tried two different sets of halo headlights.... the first set was junk. Poor mounting brackets. Crappy wiring and horrible moisture build-up... but they sure looked cool. The second set is awesome! No moisture. Wiring is simple. They fit perfectly! No aiming was needed. I did have a hard time hooking up actual HID's but that's because I used HIDs for hi and lo beams... and they're not made for hi beams so some slight modding was needed. Nothing major. They look great! The only problem is that they take FOREVER to warm up... like.... several minutes! I'm looking into it. Here's a photo of the headlights I bought. Will post pics of them installed asap.
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I also installed halo fog lights with HID lights in them as well. I used relays and harnesses for the hi/lo beams but for the fog lights I just wired them in directly with the ballast. No flickering problems or anything but they too take way to long to warm up. They also took more fab work. For whatever reason they weren't a direct bolt-on even though they were listed as such. I had to dremel out part of the factory clips that hold them in. Not sure if "clip" is the correct word. But the bottom line is that the HID wiring stuck out too far and I had to make room. No big deal. The real worry was that the foglight housing itself was too small for the HID. Of course, the bulb fit fine... but the plate on the back that seals it shut could not be reinstalled due to the new wiring placement. I worry about the elements getting in there.... so I just sealed it as best as I could and then covered the hell out of it with the liquid tape. We'll see how it holds up in a few months. Here is the set I bought.
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I installed new taillights. Nothing special. Clear lenses with chrome backings. I decided against LEDs for now but I'll install them eventually. I did have some moisture build up so I let them dry out and then I resealed all the connectors with liquid tape. I like it better than gasket maker/sealant. It's cheaper too and much easier to peal off when needed but creates just as good of a seal as any other. Needless to say - no more moisture.

Oy! I also bought some side-steps (or nerf bars - whatever you wanna call'em!) and here's a photo of the ones I bought. Again, will post installed photos later. Wanna get her detailed before I go showing her off!
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Future jobs....? Of course! Lots more to come!

  • Installing a Hughes plenum/gasket kit tomorrow
  • Installing a back-up camera VERY soon... I haul a flat-bed car-hauler all the time as well as my smaller bike trailer and an enclosed trailer for my band equipment. I never have help and the two bigger trailers require pinpoint accuracy... you can't just "get close" and then wiggle the trailer over. Needless to say, I have some nice scratches on my back bumper that I'm not too fond of. No more. I'm used to having my big 92 D250 dooly with the Cummins Turbo Diesel in it... it had a big beat-up chrome bumper on it that could (and often did) take a beating. Funny thing is... I could aim that big beast a lot easier than my D. Could be just habit though. Haven't had the D very long yet.
  • Would like to add some SUPER bright backup lights... like, replacing the backup bulb with a headlight style bulb! And/or installing some hidden white sport lights for the rear.... they can come in handy for all sorts of situations including (but not limited to) "spotting/flashing" that douche bag a half mile behind you that feels the need to run his "brights" because well... he's a douche and he's blinding you and brake-checking is illegal. Well, so are rear spot lights if they're used in this sort of fashion BUT... it is what it is and I'll risk it.
  • Would like to find a 1.5 din DVD/GPS/Stereo for the D with a decent built-in EQ at an affordable price. Very hard to come by. Must also have Bluetooth. Can't seem to find one with everything I need!
  • I need to get the front windows tinted to match the back. It's very annoying. Just looks silly. Stupid old-school laws.
  • Oy... my blower motor resistor keeps blowing. I've replaced it twice in the last couple of months. I've got it narrowed down to a bad blower motor. So, I need to change the blower motor and then the resistor again and see what happens.
  • I've heard horror stories regarding the Durango transmissions... two things to avoid those problems. Keep the fluids changed and get a tranny cooler. So, I will be getting the trans cooler asap.
  • Replace all the interior bulbs (including the dash bulbs like the check-engine-light) with LEDs. Bored with the green color... going to see if I can make everything blue.
  • Overhead console and/or moon roof someday
  • Leather Seats (preferably heated) someday
  • Lund Visor (windshield visor) as soon as I find one affordable
  • Lift Kit (not sure how high yet or which kind of lift... but thinking 2" body lift and maybe 1" spring lift) No rush for this, just would be nice!
  • I want some bling. I'm a sucker. I like my meaty off-road and all-terrains... but man, something about having an 18 to 20" set of chrome wheels with just enough meat on the tires to call it a tire... I love it. I just hate that it's become the stereotypical gang-banger thing to do. I usually surprise people with my sound system.... they expect a lot of bass (which I have, but it's not electronic, hip=hop, rap or dance... it's all ROCK baby! I think some 18's would be plenty and still give enough room for some meat on the tire so that she doesn't ride like crap.

I'll add more photos and update this post as I go. Obviously, I still have a lot to do. :) And I still have more to post to get caught up with everything I've done... sorry though... this is the first time that I had a project and failed to take photos along the way. I mean, obviously I took photos... but usually I take photos during the processes and jobs. Just in case others have questions or whatever. Most everything I've done though has been pretty easy although I should have posted a "how to" on the HID's. THAT was a project! Ugh! I'll take more photos when I start my plenum intake gasket replacement.
 
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Thanks guys. And yeah... I almost settled for the 318... in fact when I went to look at this one the guy said he thought it was the 318.... As soon as I jumped on it - I knew it was the 360. Thank God! I love it!

My next project is trying to figure out a relay system that will allow my fog lights and low beams to function like normal... BUT when I hit my hi beams... I want ALL THREE to stay on. I've done this with my older vehicles, but not sure how to pull it off on our D's. I'm actually doing it for safety purposes... I have HID's for hi and lo beams and they take way too long to warm up. It'd be nice if, when I hit the brights, my other lights stayed on as well. Obvioulsy, this could be blinding for on-coming traffic but I don't intend to leave them on all the time like that. Just when I need them.

Thoughts?

Something like this.... Dodge Ram Brite Boxes

but would like to just make a harness myself out of relays I can buy at AutoZone... I just don't have the know-how... someone out here has to be able to make me a diagram, right?
 
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Still need to organize and label those last pics.... but in the mean time, I installed the Hughe's Plenum Upgrade/Repair Kit today! Woot!

Cylinder 4 misfire is GONE! Not more sputtering at lower RPMS. She's still "drying" so I haven't been able to open her up yet but you can already feel the power/stability increase. SUPER quiet again. Runs like new.

I also replaced the metal inlet valve while I was in there as well as the thermostat, coil and water pump. VERY happy I changed the water pump.... it was ready to go ANY day. It barely wanted to turn. That's why I preach about preventative maintenance. Guys, if you're already there... just save the money to do it ALL - you'll thank me later. :)

Just need to know how long she has to sit before I can start driving here... got shit I need to DO tonight! Ugh!
 
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YES! I swear by these. I recommend these to anyone that buys a 318 or 360 Mopar engine. It's one of those no-brainer kinds of things. Sadly, it didn't fix my problem. I could say it fixed it for a day... but we disconnected the battery during install and it probably just reset the code and took awhile for it to pop back on BUT - I swear she's STILL running better. She felt a little "tired" before. After the intake... she feels brand new.

For instance... you know how when you change the oil you feel like your car is new again? Yeah, everyone gets that - but it's mostly in your head. With the Hughes setup - I can smoke the tires again! Not forever and not like some badass drag car but when I put new tires on... I couldn't even squawk the tires going around corners in the rain! After the Hughes kit... idk what changed but she'll roast'em for a few seconds from a dead stop. I'm impressed.

And when I installed the kit on my old 318 in my 92 Dodge D150.... it went from old shitty truck to badass ******* ride over night. It solved SOOOO many problems.

Sadly though... on my 360 in the Durango... even though she's running noticeably better.... it didn't fix my problem. Anyone have any ideas!?!? Here's where we're at so far...


http://www.dodgedurango.net/forums/...5963-omg-cylinder-4-misfire-code-ive-tried-everything-please-help-ft-worth.html

Take a peak and lemme know what you think.... I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING!!!!!
 
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Figured I should add the info from another post I made about blowing my engine... ugh! Anyway, here's an update...

So, I came to visit family in El Paso and on my way here from the Dallas/Fort Worth area and my engine blew up. I probably would have got a lot more life out of it but we were running 3500 rpms at 90 mph for several hours in 90 degree weather in the desert mostly uphill. Which was ok - gauges were good, fluids were fresh and she was running top notch. I pulled in for gas and grabbed a drink and came out and started pumping and out of the blue smoke/steam and water/coolant started spewing under the hood. I blew the upper radiator hose. Upon inspection, the plastic part that the rad cap connects to was already broken... it just couldn't handle the heat/pressure. I was in the middle of nowhere at a gas station that was extremely questionable to say the least.... so I patched up it and went on my way. My goal was a truck stop about 25 miles away. I made it about 5 miles before it blew again. So I removed the thermostat thinking maybe it was bad (even though I just replaced it) and patched it again, filled it up and went on my way. She was losing water from a leak FAST so every couple miles I stopped and capped it off again. Then finally when the truck stop came in view.... she died. This time, I checked the oil and it was full of coolant. FAIL. I waited for her to cool off and topped her off with the last of the water I had with me and then chugged her to the truck stop and parked her. I left in tears. I should have waited where I was at until the next day to get proper repairs. No excuse. But I was tired. It was like 4am... lots of cars stripped on the side of the road... I had my trailer behind me with everything I owned in it. My motorcycle and band/PA gear and everything else. Even the titles to both vehicles and the trailer were in a box on the trailer so I couldn't just leave it anywhere. Oh well...

I've been wanting to replace the engine for awhile anyway but now that I've blown the head gasket (or worse)... it's a good excuses to git'r done. And rather than rebuild - I want a nice new tight engine. So after looking at Jasper, and AutoZone and Advance and NAPA and countless others - I've decided on this one; Powertrain 5.9L 360 with a 4yr no fault warranty. Self-install doesn't void the warranty either. Cheaper than several others. Shipping only $150 anywhere

Going to replace the distributor as well.... any recommendations on these two or others??? I could really use some help on this as I think that my cyl4 misfire code was due to my distributor.
AutoZone's "High Performance"
AutoZone's OE Dist made by Cardone
Obviously, I'm an AutoZone guy - but I'm happy to consider other brands with good reasoning besides "AZ sells junk parts bla bla bla"... I want reviews or personal experience please.

Here's a list of other little things I'm going to add/replace with the engine swap as I go...
Radiator Cap with Temp Gauge - AutoZone $29.99 Never see one of these.... considering the way things went with my stock engine, this might be a good idea, lol!
Radiator Cap Connector - eBay $25.00 About the only place I could even find one of these.
Spectre Engine Hose Kit - AutoZone $100.00 Anyone have any experience with these kits? Recommend anything similar/cheaper/better?
Speed Daddy Header Kit - eBay $138.98 Headers are Headers right? This was the best price I could find.
AC Compressor Kit - eBay $149.00
AC Condenser - eBay $84.00
Serpentine Belt - eBay $30Not sure which one I need yet, but not spending a lot on a belt. I'll go with a 3yr Dayco for $30 but not spending $60 for one.

I'll post photos as I go and updates as I make decisions on my purchases. Going to take out my loan tomorrow and hopefully get the engine ordered and have it here by the end of the week.
 
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Did you figure out the Low beam/ fog light constant mod?

In the archives here, there is a small jumper wire used to link the fogs to stay with low beam lights, fog light jumper search
 
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Not yet.... never had the chance. I really want my hi/lo to stay on together when I activate my hi's.... because the damn HIDs take forever to warm up and they're not as bright as one would expect. But if I hold the switch where both stay on until they warm up.... looks perfect. With all three "on" on hi-beams... it'd be fantastic.
 
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hey on the window regulators all four of mine quit working, they were running sluggish like you said, I took the gear box apart and the grease they used was turning to tar like so I wiped it out put some fresh grease in there put it back together, works great like brand new, did 3 of the 4 one more to go
 
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2014-06-22 - UPDATE

Ok, so my fundage became a deciding factor on which engine I chose.... I went with a used engine but ONLY because I happened to find one with only 85k miles. I was still skeptical but it's a 2001 RT with leather seats, overhead console and several other little things I needed/wanted.

It was turned into a baha/off-road machine. No doors. Skid plates covering the engine, tranny and fuel tank. Has a good Magnaflow exhaust setup. I already gave away the Cat though.

But yeah, I picked it up for $1400. I figured $800 for the used engine with low miles, $400 for the heated leather RT seats, and $200 for windshield. The rest was just extras. Not sure whether or not I'm keeping the skid plates. I'd like to but I could really use the cash to help recup some costs. If anyone has any interest or needs any parts - let me know. If I'm not using them - I'll gladly ship anything out. But it has to go soon because I'm renting a shop bay and lift for $4 an hour and I've got to get it out of there.

Wish me luck on the swap.... any recommendations? Anything I should change/swap while I have the engine pull to prevent problems down the road?? Anything to watch out for?? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Looks Great Good find for that Budget!
STEVE