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Smoking from engine compartment!

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#1 ·
So I drove away from my girlfriend's house and 5 min into it smoke comes in the cabin. I immediately pull over and open up the hood and see this thing smoking like hell and smelling like crap. I started up the engine it stopped spinning, which meant no burning, so I drove back to my girlfriend's house and had her drive me home. It's now sitting there. Anyone know what this is? Cost? Hard to fix, myself or mechanic? This is my daily driver and I need it for work and school (community college.)

Thanks!

If you look, it looks like half of the black stuff broke off or something.

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#2 ·
Looks like/sounds like the AC compressor locked up. Pull the fuse on it, change out the belt and in the Spring get a new compressor and recharge. You can find them on eBay monthly for lots less than the dealer or aftermarket? still brand new. Looks like you need a new pully too.

At least from what I see? that's my 2¢ diag. The real experts will chime in in the morning most likely.

Make sure you get that new belt! On my 2000 D with 5.9L? Goodyear Gatorback Poly-V Serpentine Belts GTR-4070975 @ $32.99. Yours should be exactly the same. When I changed my belt, in one place I went over instead of under and it was wrong. I could tell just pulling out of the drive, so follow the belt sticker diagram exactly. A long screwdriver to flex in the arm and in 3 minutes your done. (I used a tire iron actually)

Best of luck!

IndyDurango
 
#4 ·
AGREED

I agree with Indy the AC clutch has seized so pulling the fuse may not help. You need a new AC compressor and idler and of course the new belt.
As Indy stated, there are plenty of AC compressors on eBay all the time. Pickup the idler at the dealer and, as for the belt, as Indy stated the Gatorback will be your best option.
Steve
DOC Pres
 
#5 ·
You wouldn't even have to waste the time and risk getting a bad part buying one on eBay. They're all over the place in the salvage yards.
Use this link to locate one near you. www.car-part.com
It's simple to change. If nobody's looking, you could just slowly pull the refrigerant line at the compressor and just let it go out into the air (choke on that one Mr. Gore!) and replace the compressor, then just get it recharged later on when you need the A/C.
 
#6 ·
OH NO!

TheDodgeGuy said:
You wouldn't even have to waste the time and risk getting a bad part buying one on eBay. They're all over the place in the salvage yards.
Use this link to locate one near you. www.car-part.com
It's simple to change. If nobody's looking, you could just slowly pull the refrigerant line at the compressor and just let it go out into the air (choke on that one Mr. Gore!) and replace the compressor, then just get it recharged later on when you need the A/C.
If he does a release he'll need to go BUY some Carbon Credits to make up for his effect on Global Warming LOL LOL LOL
Steve
DOC Pres
 
#7 ·
You should be able to pull the electrical connector off the compressor instead of hunting down the fuse.

Its hard to say what's burning through the internet - the clutch or belt. Chances are you had the A/C or defrost 'on' when it happened? If its just the compressor locked, but the clutch isn't melted together or stuck on, simply don't use the A/C or defrost and you'll be fine until you get the new parts installed.

James
 
#8 ·
James1549 said:
You should be able to pull the electrical connector off the compressor instead of hunting down the fuse.

Its hard to say what's burning through the internet - the clutch or belt. Chances are you had the A/C or defrost 'on' when it happened? If its just the compressor locked, but the clutch isn't melted together or stuck on, simply don't use the A/C or defrost and you'll be fine until you get the new parts installed.

James
Absolutely right?Only if removing power from the compressor doesn't fix it's replacement necessary right away.
 
#9 ·
The problem with leaving an A/C system uncharged or open till spring is that you have allowed moisture into the system. Moisture and raw aluminum (most of the components of an A/C system) aren't the best of friends. This can cause enough corrosion contamination to really foul up the operation of your A/C when you re-charge it later on. I have seen systems so screwed up from this that they had to be completely replaced to fix it.

If you open a system, get it fixed and vacuumed and charged as soon as possible to prevent this.
 
#10 ·
I just replaced my evap/heater core ahhh don't want it to go bad again, and yes, I did have the defroster on when it happend.

So do I need a new A/C compressor or just the A/C compressor clutch?

What kind of tools are necessary to do this? blah I'm horrible at fixing things I'm only good at adding things :mrgreen:

just checked pricing is this right?
2000
A/C Compressor
Dodge Durango T-8640-T II-231 $125

I also don't think my compressor isn't working because when I put it on defroster it spinns but the spinning thing is what smokes after it starts spinning, is the just the idler or the clutch also?
 
#12 ·
nvm thanks neil.

Anyone know the p/n description of jus the thing that spins, I'd rather try to replace that before I buy a brand new compressor.
 
#13 ·
Ah?that's for the engine mechanical cooling fan. That has nothing to the AC compressor.
 
#14 ·
And the reason for the new 134a was that it's environementally safe, so they say for now. It was the chlorine in r12 that affected the ozone.

Its hard to say if you need just the clutch or the entire compressor. Chances are the compressor locked, and smoked the clutch being the weak link. If the clutch got that hot anyway, it may have damaged the front seal and you may have trouble down the road. Buying the tools needed for one clutch job probably can't be justified.

Another thing to consider: If the compressor is trash, you'll want to flush the system out to remove any contaminates from the bad compressor. I have yet to work on my Dodge A/C, so I'm not familiar where a filter/strainer is located in the system.

James
 
#15 ·
It's so stupid that R134A is considered "environmentally safe", but it's still illegal in WI to purchase over-the-counter.

They repealed that law last summer here, and then put it back in place in November. :roll:

If I want R134A, I'll just take a trip over the border to IL, and buy as much as I want right at Wal-Mart.
 
#20 ·
I just found out my AC wasn't working today. Turned it on for the 1st time with our 70 degree weather LOL:) Just blowing out hot air. Well it's going for an oil change on Tuesday so I'll have the dealer check the AC out too. I can live without it for acouple of days.
 
#22 ·
Adde, you can get just the clutch for the A/C (the round black pulley assembly on the front of the compressor), if that's all that's wrong, or just the compressor (5.2/5.9 should be the same unit), or a complete package of both. If the compressor is gone, you might want to consider a new H-valve and receiver/dryer, as that seems to be where all the small parts get stuck and foul up the rest of the system.

Good luck
 
#24 ·
I'm just happy I found out now. Instead of finding out on the way down for the Smoky meet. Had a few calls today and hate responding with the windows down, the wind noise drowns out the radio traffic.
 
#25 ·
I've been trying to find just the clutch with no luck, did find the whole thing for like $150 from a junkyard.

I'm gonna start calling around and see how much it's to install and such.
 
#26 ·
For me, this is one of those 'been there, done that' things!

Most likely, you fried the bearing in the clutch hub. Apparently the bearings were of poor quality on some the A/C units. You CAN buy just the clutch from the dealer, but, it's not cheap and not that easy for the average home mechanic without the right tools. I found, while looking to replace mine, that some of the Napa type parts stores were selling remanufactured compressors, with a new clutch, for less than the dealer for just the clutch. The down side is that, obviously, you need to open the system and recharge if you opt to replace the whole compressor.

I went the new clutch route, from the dealership, mostly to save the hassle of recharging in our overly environmentally friendly world. The other reason I went that route was that my local dealer happened to have a couple of clutch kits on the shelf! The replacement isn't really that hard, but, you need a few good pairs of snap ring pliers and some mechanical skill.

The other, much less costly option, for the moment is to bypass the A/C with the shorter belt for non-A/C equipped trucks! $20 and the problem is gone!

Here's everything you ever wanted to know about your A/C compressor: http://www.sanden.com/support/servicemanual/english/table_of_contents.html