I had the AS05's on a supercharged GTO and was pleasantly surprised how well they rode.

 

I’m thinking about the Atturo AZ850 when I need to replace the PZero’s. There is an option to get the PZero’s in a non runflat which i would also consider but the Atturo’s are so much cheaper…reviews seem pretty good.

 

So did you get an extra for your spare now that you don't have run flats?

 

I already have the spare tire option ...

 

I guess the web site is not up to date

 

Forget about putting in your vehicle, just search by tire size.
For whatever reason they don't have it associated with the Durango...

 

Forget about putting in your vehicle, just search by tire size.
For whatever reason they don't have it associated with the Durango...

Dittos on searching by size. With Tirerack.com searching by vehicle will filter out by speed rating. Maybe the same reason on General's site.

I went with the Sumitomo HTR Enhance CX2 last time around. They won't show up unless you search by size. The speed rating is 130 MPH vs. 186 MPH for the stock Pirellis. All other values were superior for a daily driver, especially treadwear and the price.

I'm not planning on evading the cops or traveling on the Autobahn any time soon so a lower speed rating was ok with me.

 

Tirerack has them for 197 each

 

Plus right now there is also a $100 rebate when you buy 4....

 

I have about 15k miles on my AS07s. So far, they're the quietest and best-wearing of all the tires I've had. I'm at 54k miles on my R/T TnG, and this is my third set of tires. The AS07s aren't classified as directional, but they're pretty directional. This current rotation cycle, they're running "backwards". The tires certainly don't care which way they're running, but the tread pattern favors better water channeling, one way over the other. Regardless of direction, they're not great on wet pavement -- not dangerous if you're responsible and make good decisions. So obviously, I'm in great peril.

I'll be saying goodbye to them today, as I'm trading my Durango in -- on another Durango.

 

When my Pirrelli's went bald, and I mean BALD! I switched to the Nitto 420V's, in the "factory" size! Couldn't be more happier! Especially, in the rain! Bought 4 tires for the same price as ONE Pirelli oem replacement...!

 

I have the 420's and they are Nasty LOUD! You can feel the tread blocks rotating throughout the Durango. Especially when coming to a stop or taking off, then there is the awful drone on the highway, to the point that everyone who gets in complains that my truck is too loud or something must be wrong. I'm going to try the AS7's so if anyone wants a set of nitto 420's with only 18kmiles on them, hit me up.

 

I run Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires in size 285/45R20 for a winter tire on my Hellcat because the Pirelli’s stink in the snow. The Michelins are a V rated tire and you can tell the difference if you really push them. The Pirelli’s being a Y rated tire and also a run flat, have a lot stiffer side walls. That being said, the Michelins have a lot smoother quieter ride and do excellent in the snow and rain. They are an all season tire and the size difference is nominal and you will not notice it. If I drove more civilized, I would love to try them year around, but then spring comes and the itch to push the Cat comes with that change.

 

If you’re gonna swap tires winter and summer why run all seasons?

 

Just got Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4’s for our 2022 RT AWD with T&G. They were over $150 cheaper per tire than the OE Pirelli P-Zero run flats. Still not cheap, but they do have a 45k mile warrantee…and we drive a lot.

 

I had the same experience with the runflat Pirelli's, done at 20K. Even rotated them, they didn't wear unevenly, they just wore. Re-placed with the Continentals and they have been great. Looks like I will get close to 40K. But they are still $1,600. This looks interesting.

 

I also had the Continentals before the Sumitomo's. 40K sounds about right.

 

I believe that oem runflats are overpriced because they can charge whatever. I also believe that on a higher performance SRT/HC with 5400lbs to chuck around you want the highest /quality/ load/speed rating possible.

 

Everyone is going to have their own opinion when it comes to tires. What tire dealers can get for you also depends on what neck of the woods you live in. I have always liked the way Michelin's rode (noise/ handling), but you will NEVER get the mileage warranty out of them even with weekly air pressure checks, rotations every 5k miles, alignments with every rotation, and the occasional balance whenever a vibration popped up. When the dreaded Pirelli tires were due on mine at around 25k miles, I put on the Toyo Proxes STIII's because why pay extra for run-flats when we have a spare??? They seem to be holding up well, although they are directional. I would not go with anything under a "V" rating so you don't mess with brake / handling characteristics. A lower rating is going to have a softer sidewall which will increase your body roll AND your stopping distances. The other side effect is that if you get a good cross breeze with softer tires, your vehicle is going to be more likely to be moved. Hope this helps everyone/ someone. If you want to run optional tire sizes, make sure you do research- that 285/45R20 is going to throw off your speedometer/ odometer because it has a different diameter. By diameter the optional tire sizes (be aware there may not be tires made in these sizes) would be 275/55r20, 285/50r20, 305/40R20, 315/35R20. Also look at the recommended rim width for these tires because our rims are 10" wide and these may be too narrow or too wide to fit. These sizes are based on my extensive tire classes I had to take in the 90's and early 2000's and are only for basic information with the rule of thumb if you wanted thicker tires (fill the body gap), the tire had to be more narrow to keep the diameter in check. Just as if you wanted wider tires, you have to give up some sidewall height to do it properly.

 

Did you even see my reply to your other post?

 

I purchased a set of the Generals today. It was pouring when I left Discount Tire and the tires handled the rain with no issues. And the ride was fantastic.

Initially I was planning on purchasing a set of Continental Extreme Contacts, but the salesman at Discount Tire suggested the Generals. He said they are their best sellers for Jeep and Durango SRTs and made by the same company as the Continentals. Plus they were $700 cheaper than the Continentals and come with a 50k mile warranty.

 

What is the speed rating of those Generals?

 

They are V, 149. Which is ok for the R/T TnG but I think too shy for the SRTs.

They are V, 149. Which is ok for the R/T TnG but I think too shy for the SRTs.

The original tires are a (Y) rating for speeds over 186. But in my "testing" of the speed, on a closed course in Mexico, you're pretty much limited to driving brick at 150-155.

 

Yes, the Generals are V rated to 149. That's more than enough for the SRT and for the driving I do.

 

I EFFIN LOVE tires. They are one of my passions and I love studying them, watching reviews and then comparing them for myself.

All tires have strength and weakness , as mentioned above, it's situational what tire is going to be right for you. EXCEPT load rating and you should at least MATCH the manufacturer's size and speed rating. Going with tires under those values is not really a good idea.

I get it, we all don't drive our Durangos at high speeds but the suspension is tuned for a tire that has that compound. Sure you can do it, but you give up a little handling and high speed grip.

Now once you understand at least that , let's talk about climate and your actually conditions. Going with a Summer tire and a Winter tire setup is the best of both worlds IF you live somewhere where in the summer , you have high heat and in the winter you have terrible low temp and lots of snow conditions.
Negative is you have to swap back in forth seasonal with either a tire change or a owning 2 sets of wheels.

In my are for example, running All seasons is the way to go. Let's face it, summer tires are superior in every way in the warm conditions especially if you high speed handle and do pulls alot. There are ultra high performance all seasons that come really close to that performance and still can handle light snow no problem.

I'km not going to suggest anyone buy any time unless I'm asked. But I will say this, if you want another more affordable option for your Durango , look into Toyo Proxes GT 3's. They are pretty remarkable tires for the price. They are NOT Continental DWS-06 Plus competitors or even the Michelin Pilot Sport All seasons BUT they are for any other tire made under the 2 top dogs.

Run Flats in my opinion are very expensive for someone who doesn't get flat tires or live in an area which a lot of pod holes etc. I'm not saying they are not worth the asking price as they are, especially for what they can do. BUT in my opinion the extra weight of the tire , the extra cost of the tire, they are not worth it to me. I'd rather have Pilot sports or DWS-06 Plus tires over them. Lower price better performance and take the risk of a flat and just put the spare on or get a tow truck . The Run flats will get you home. So this is where the value is.

Tires are fun people and just remember when selecting them. Tires are the ONLY thing that touches the road. They are the be all end off of your safety performance and comfort level. Buy the best tires for your conditions you can afford. If your in a pinch and need tires , just get the best ones you can as again don't risk your life to cheap tires that might not be as good as people say they are.

 

I'm a total tire nerd too, and probably study and obsess about em too much LOL. Lots of wise words here, so lemme throw in "directional" too. I freaking hate directional tires and how they limit one's options for rotation. OP, if you can avoid a directional tire when you choose, IMO you'll be better off cause you'll be able to rotate more freely.

Prior to our TNG I had never had run flats. I had the fortunate or unfortunate experience of actually having a puncture when we had our TNG. It was a nasty screw in the sidewall. I was humbled and amazed that I was able to drive to the dealer the next day to have it replaced, and that experience pretty much changed my world view on run flats. So pretty much anything my wife might drive by herself is now gonna have run flats on it. IMHO it's sad though that they are so darn expensive. I personally hope run flats become more ubiquitous so hopefully their prices come down.

I'm also a big fan of "almost do it all perfectly" ultra performance all seasons. IMHO we are so blessed to be living in a time where science and teach have us to where we can almost have the best of all worlds year round with tires. I'm old enough to remember way back when one either had all seasons, or tires that actually performed LOL. I personally love the idea of having high performance tires that don't require either freaking out over or avoiding driving when a little snow is in the forecast.

 

I'm a total tire nerd too, and probably study and obsess about em too much LOL. Lots of wise words here, so lemme throw in "directional" too. I freaking hate directional tires and how they limit one's options for rotation. OP, if you can avoid a directional tire when you choose, IMO you'll be better off cause you'll be able to rotate more freely.

Prior to our TNG I had never had run flats. I had the fortunate or unfortunate experience of actually having a puncture when we had our TNG. It was a nasty screw in the sidewall. I was humbled and amazed that I was able to drive to the dealer the next day to have it replaced, and that experience pretty much changed my world view on run flats. So pretty much anything my wife might drive by herself is now gonna have run flats on it. IMHO it's sad though that they are so darn expensive. I personally hope run flats become more ubiquitous so hopefully their prices come down.

I'm also a big fan of "almost do it all perfectly" ultra performance all seasons. IMHO we are so blessed to be living in a time where science and teach have us to where we can almost have the best of all worlds year round with tires. I'm old enough to remember way back when one either had all seasons, or tires that actually performed LOL. I personally love the idea of having high performance tires that don't require either freaking out over or avoiding driving when a little snow is in the forecast.

Old enough to remember and have driven on bias ply tires? Radial tires were something when they became affordable for the average person. Yes tires have come a long way. We are able to realize the benefits of racing and track testing now and have that research passed down to Joe Consumer. We are indeed very lucky. Waiting to hear from someone here on the forum that has purchased a set of Atturo tires to see what they are like. These are what I run in the Winter months, the OEM Pirelli tires are crap for snow.

 

Yeah, I would never try to drive the OE Pirellis in a true snow storm, but personally I LOVE that they will get me home when a little starts falling. Heck, as a general rule our Durango does not come out in the nasty weather and when there is any serious snow predicted.

 

I purchased the Cat as an AWD vehicle. Sometimes she just needs to go out and scratch her claws……..in any type of weather. These things are meant to be driven, I feel safe and secure driving this platform.

 

It seems tire selection is somewhat limited due to the stock 295/45-20 tire size.
I can't seem to find a quality summer tire for the Durango Hellcats, something similar to a Michelin Pilot Sport 4's. Any recommendations?
Rich

 

It seems tire selection is somewhat limited due to the stock 295/45-20 tire size.
I can't seem to find a quality summer tire for the Durango Hellcats, something similar to a Michelin Pilot Sport 4's. Any recommendations?
Rich

P-Zero non runflats or Atturo AZ850’s?