Thanks @Vee8Thunder, I had a look at that and it looks like a potential option, although no payload was mentioned in any article I could find. So I suspect they won’t know until later.It might have already been mentioned (I scanned the thread but didn't read every post in detail) but if you want/need a SUV form factor, it might be worthwhile to see what the Jeep Wagoneer (and/or Grand Wagoneer) looks like when it is released later this year. The extra 2800 pounds of towing capability over the R/T might be just enough to get you where you want to be capability-wise. Just throwing it out there...the other suggestions of RAM pickups etc are also excellent.
3/4 ton pickup with long wheelbase is going to be way more capable, especially in bad conditions; hills, sidewinds, semi truck traffic
The 2500 is definitely an option. Hopefully I can find one to test drive. They’ve been a bit rare around these parts lately. I actually don’t even mind the older cabin - it has aged well.Depending on how you use it, you might want to look at the gas 2500. Payload is better but can’t tow as much. Also note the Ram heavy duty trucks don’t have the redesigned cabins yet. I think that’s coming up for 2022.
Heh… just for fun, I had a look at the new Durango R/T with Tow n Go, because if I had a choice I’d continue towing with a D forever. 🙂 It looks like it’s touted as having a boosted tow capacity > 8000 lbs, but the payload is still 1200?! Even with my older 2018 R/T, any tow weight close to the max 7200 lbs tow capacity would reduce payload enough that you could only bring one passenger. I guess at this point it’s a marketing contest for who has the highest number, usable or otherwise.
And maybe the rear axle weight limit. I think it’s still at 3900 lbs, which is really easy to max out, and I suspect it’s the main culprit. Even the Ram 1500 has a rear axle weight limit of 4100lbs.From what I can tell its marketed more towards people who want the SRT features, but have other cars that they can dump money into for power...perhaps to tow your race car to the track etc. Not sure what they can do to increase payload, only difference I see from its two bigger HP brothers is the engine and the gearing.
SRT and TNG get a slight boost to 3,940 lbs rear GAWR.And maybe the rear axle weight limit. I think it’s still at 3900 lbs, which is really easy to max out, and I suspect it’s the main culprit. Even the Ram 1500 has a rear axle weight limit of 4100lbs.
Good point, I forgot because it’s a pickup truck, the bed isn’t going to have passenger weight directly on it.SRT and TNG get a slight boost to 3,940 lbs rear GAWR.
Yes the Ram 1500 is 4,100 lbs but remember that it has less unloaded weight over the rear axle. Pickup truck weight distribution is about 60/40 vs the Durango’s 50/50.
That was my experience last time I weighed in. With a trailer loaded to 4000 lbs only, but with the D loaded up with 2 kids and 2 adults (including the driver), the rear axle weight was exactly at 3900 lbs. with WDH engaged.With our TT loaded to ~6,500 lbs I was always right around 3,900 lbs on the Durango. Same setup on the Ram and it’s only 3,600 lbs. Lots more headroom to stay under GAWR
When I was looking to replace my Durango it came down to two choices for me. Expedition Max and Ram 1500Good point, I forgot because it’s a pickup truck, the bed isn’t going to have passenger weight directly on it.
That was my experience last time I weighed in. With a trailer loaded to 4000 lbs only, but with the D loaded up with 2 kids and 2 adults (including the driver), the rear axle weight was exactly at 3900 lbs. with WDH engaged.
On a bit of a tangent, our hitch weight was 980 lbs, which is nuts for a trailer only loaded to 4000 lbs., yet we had only ~200lbs of cargo loaded into the front of the TT (plus battery and propane). The Apex Nano 208BHS seems a bit front-heavy for its overall weight. If I could move that 200lbs somewhere else, it might help out. I’m not sure where though, because it seems anything I put further back on the TT affects towability, in that it starts causing actual initial sway rather than just the odd jostle. The WDH keeps it from turning into full-blown sway, but still.
In any case, hopefully the small adjustment I made to the WDH yesterday will help with our next camping trip, and in the meantime, the hunt for a higher payload TV continues.