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I've always had a Maglight handy in all vehicles.

I was happy to be able to add it to the D in the exact place as my old 4Runner; it's right between my legs mounted on the hump forward of the storage hatch.

These new Maglights are awesome and added a "bust a cap" tailcap for windows as a safety feature. It's a 2D size and fits perfectly.
 

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guessing the clips came with it?

I stow my 3D LED mag between the driver seat and the center console... rests kinda on the seat frame... but like your spot better!
 
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guessing the clips came with it?

I stow my 3D LED mag between the driver seat and the center console... rests kinda on the seat frame... but like your spot better!
Bought the clips separately, like $4 on Amazon.

I've always used a 3D too but wouldn't fit in that spot. It's super secure and very quick access.
 
Nice install, its always good to have a quick access flashlight. The one in the rear is not bad if you have nothing else. I haven't person car carried a large light in years, I do EDC some Streamlights though. Glad to see Mag-lite stepped up their LED game.
 
Just a heads up, the window breaker is great thing to have in a car, but be aware it won't work on the front doors. They are laminated glass like windshields, roll it down and look at the top of the glass, its layers. Then look at the windows in the rear door. Also if you tap on them you hear a huge difference. So if you submarine the Durango, you need to knock out the back windows, or wait for the interior to fill and equalize pressure with the water so you can open the door. They do it for noise reduction or if you want to put on a tin foil hat "so you can't escape when they come for you and run you off the road into the river/lake/ocean". In most accidents they are cutting you out of these cars so the window shattering isn't needed for extraction, and often causes more danger to the responders from cuts and possible disease contraction from blood-borne pathogens.

Are the Mag-Lites still USA made?
 
Just a heads up, the window breaker is great thing to have in a car, but be aware it won't work on the front doors. They are laminated glass like windshields, roll it down and look at the top of the glass, its layers. Then look at the windows in the rear door. Also if you tap on them you hear a huge difference. So if you submarine the Durango, you need to knock out the back windows, or wait for the interior to fill and equalize pressure with the water so you can open the door. They do it for noise reduction or if you want to put on a tin foil hat "so you can't escape when they come for you and run you off the road into the river/lake/ocean". In most accidents they are cutting you out of these cars so the window shattering isn't needed for extraction, and often causes more danger to the responders from cuts and possible disease contraction from blood-borne pathogens.

Are the Mag-Lites still USA made?
I've smashed out many a front window, laminated or not, with a similar window punch on the end of a knife handle.
 
I have these in all my vehicles.

https://www.amazon.com/Seatbelt-Breaker-reliable-KeyChain-8-3-Inch/dp/B000IDUW5C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1480949466&sr=8-5&keywords=glass+breaker+seatbelt+cutter

I have them on the headrest posts so that they are accessible by either front or rear occupants of my vehicles. In a worse case scenario anyone in the car can reach at least one and free themselves and then the rest.
It might sound paranoid, but living in SFL with all the canals we have, you never know.

Tman
 
the 2c model fits perfectly in door pouch on my 99, the 3d model is a tight fit, but does squeeze in there, with effort. 3D fits nice in my ram
 
I didn't know that Mag-Lite came out with a "Tactical" line. I just ordered a couple of 2D's. I have always kept a regular 4D model up front between the seat and center console for security reasons.
 
I've smashed out many a front window, laminated or not, with a similar window punch on the end of a knife handle.
Awesome could you share your tips? My best friend who is a first responder would like to know, as they always have to use saws and axes. As would other durango owners I'm sure. I'm not in rescue, locksmithing, theft, etc so I don't smash out windows often so please excuse my ignorance. I just would feel terrible if I gave bad safety related info, so here are some videos.

This one is actually a 2nd Gen Durango
And the windows don't even shatter when shot with bullets. So I'm thinking an Axe might be good to keep in the car.
 
Your video shows a guy with an unsupported glass panel to which he hits the centre of. You've got to hit in a solid area, and just like breaching a door, never in the middle. A bottom corner usually works well when using a tool that strikes hard. I'm not a fan of the spring loaded punches; not enough force. Once you've got the spider web you'll be able to clear the window out like a sheet, much like tempered glass with a good quality after-market tint.

Awesome could you share your tips? My best friend who is a first responder would like to know, as they always have to use saws and axes. As would other durango owners I'm sure. I'm not in rescue, locksmithing, theft, etc so I don't smash out windows often so please excuse my ignorance. I just would feel terrible if I gave bad safety related info, so here are some videos.

This one is actually a 2nd Gen Durango
And the windows don't even shatter when shot with bullets. So I'm thinking an Axe might be good to keep in the car.
 
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I've smashed out many a front window, laminated or not, with a similar window punch on the end of a knife handle.
Awesome could you share your tips? My best friend who is a first responder would like to know, as they always have to use saws and axes. As would other durango owners I'm sure. I'm not in rescue, locksmithing, theft, etc so I don't smash out windows often so please excuse my ignorance. I just would feel terrible if I gave bad safety related info, so here are some videos.

And the windows don't even shatter when shot with bullets. So I'm thinking an Axe might be good to keep in the car.
Coyo is right, breaking auto glass can be done easily with a good technique.

I've broken a few in my time and the trick is a sharp awl like device and hitting the glass in the lower corners. The bottom corners of side windows give the most resistance due to the frame and a sharp tipped tool focuses the energy.

That's why I like the Bust a Cap on the Maglight; good weight/leverage and the sharp tip you need.

Hitting the glass in the center with a flashlight, baton, etc. will take quite a few blows(may not break at all). Using a sharp tipped tool and a nice tap in the corner will shatter it.
Don't attempt the windshield, that isn't shattering; but sides and back glass, no problem.

And yes you're right, bullets through a windshield don't do anything to break it and actually deflect the bullet quiet a bit.

My experience is from many years of military training and friends with police/ EMS.

Check out this video and see how easy it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNG5K91js0&sns=em

If you really want to see something crazy google breaking auto glass with a spark plug.
 
To be fair; the video you posted is of tempered glass, not laminated. Laminated won't go like that, especially with that little spring loaded punch. A hard hit with a sharp tool in the right spot will start you off, then you peel it away.


Coyo is right, breaking auto glass can be done easily with a good technique.

I've broken a few in my time and the trick is a sharp awl like device and hitting the glass in the lower corners. The bottom corners of side windows give the most resistance due to the frame and a sharp tipped tool focuses the energy.

That's why I like the Bust a Cap on the Maglight; good weight/leverage and the sharp tip you need.

Hitting the glass in the center with a flashlight, baton, etc. will take quite a few blows(may not break at all). Using a sharp tipped tool and a nice tap in the corner will shatter it.
Don't attempt the windshield, that isn't shattering; but sides and back glass, no problem.

And yes you're right, bullets through a windshield don't do anything to break it and actually deflect the bullet quiet a bit.

My experience is from many years of military training and friends with police/ EMS.

Check out this video and see how easy it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNG5K91js0&sns=em

If you really want to see something crazy google breaking auto glass with a spark plug.
 
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To be fair; the video you posted is of tempered glass, not laminated. Laminated won't go like that, especially with that little spring loaded punch. A hard hit with a sharp tool in the right spot will start you off, then you peel it away.
Agreed. I think we are saying the same thing and the principals are the same.

And I don't like those spring loaded punches either, impractical and many times not strong enough.
 
And yes you're right, bullets through a windshield don't do anything to break it and actually deflect the bullet quiet a bit.
This is where the misunderstanding is...that is the SIDE DOOR GLASS in that video NOT the windshield. I had the same misunderstanding at first until tomk clued me in, then I further researched.
GAPS: Laminated front door glass is a quietness thing. Yes, it is like windshield glass.
From this post. http://www.dodgedurango.net/forums/durango-discussions-2014/25865-questions-about-my-build-sheet.html#post283241

My experience is from many years of military training and friends with police/ EMS.
Thank you for your service.

Check out this video and see how easy it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNG5K91js0&sns=em
If you really want to see something crazy google breaking auto glass with a spark plug.
Again.....that is safety glass...this is not what is in the front side windows of the Durango. They are laminated like windshields and yes I'm well aware of the ceramic chunks of spark plugs refered to as "ninja rocks" that a mild flick at a safety glass window will almost silently take it out. Or automatic centering punches, or carbide tips on knives, flashlights, escape tools, etc.

coyo I see where you are coming from, sorry that I misunderstood, I just wanted to throw out the facts about the front door glass not being standard safety glass, it does need to be peeled or cut. Some people may not have the strength to peel it from just from using a carbine glass breaker though.

I don't come to argue, there are more important things to do in my life.
PEACE!!! *drops microphone*
 
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Again.....that is safety glass...this is not what is in the front side windows of the Durango. They are laminated like windshields and yes I'm well aware of the ceramic chunks of spark plugs refered to as "ninja rocks" that a mild flick at a safety glass window will almost silently take it out. Or automatic centering punches, or carbide tips on knives, flashlights, escape tools, etc.

coyo I see where you are coming from, sorry that I misunderstood, I just wanted to throw out the facts about the front door glass not being standard safety glass, it does need to be peeled or cut. Some people may not have the strength to peel it from just from using a carbine glass breaker though.

I don't come to argue, there are more important things to do in my life.
PEACE!!! *drops microphone*
No worries, didn't take yours or anyone's post as argumentative. ;)

I just saw all of this as good info sharing; great data regarding the differences between safety/laminated glass and ways to breach (at least the best chance).

On to the next mod!
 
This is where the misunderstanding is...that is the SIDE DOOR GLASS in that video NOT the windshield. I had the same misunderstanding at first until tomk clued me in, then I further researched.

From this post. http://www.dodgedurango.net/forums/durango-discussions-2014/25865-questions-about-my-build-sheet.html#post283241


Thank you for your service.



Again.....that is safety glass...this is not what is in the front side windows of the Durango. They are laminated like windshields and yes I'm well aware of the ceramic chunks of spark plugs refered to as "ninja rocks" that a mild flick at a safety glass window will almost silently take it out. Or automatic centering punches, or carbide tips on knives, flashlights, escape tools, etc.

coyo I see where you are coming from, sorry that I misunderstood, I just wanted to throw out the facts about the front door glass not being standard safety glass, it does need to be peeled or cut. Some people may not have the strength to peel it from just from using a carbine glass breaker though.

I don't come to argue, there are more important things to do in my life.
PEACE!!! *drops microphone*
All good! It's a good conversation and very important as most people don't know about the recent laminated trend in side windows. It's funny watching people who expect the window to crumble like tempered safety glass only to find little or no result from their strike. And then watch them do it again! LOL.
 
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