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How To - Gen1 to Gen2 Rear Wiper Switchover

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#1 ·
I've posted before about the possibility of changing the rear wipers out on a Gen1 to those used on a Gen2. The consensus was yes, it'd probably work. (see this thread) Well, the answer is now yes for sure. In fact, it'll take you longer to read this review than to install your new Gen2 wiper!

My rear wiper was starting to look a little rough with the painted finish wearing off. I bought a second rear wiper to replace it and I was either going to go with stock black or paint and finish the original to match the D. Well, the longer I thought about it, the more I wanted to try to switch it out for the Gen2 rear wiper. I like the look of the Gen2 rear wiper much better, plus it pulls away from the rear hatch glass nearly three times as far as the Gen1 version I had. IMHO, that makes it a lot better to clean the glass, replace the wiper blade, and usage in general.

I went to the stealer to order the parts, told them what I was doing and, of course, since it's not in their book it can be done, all I got was that blank stare back from across the counter. They looked up the rear arm on the Gen2 '04 D and ordered it for me. Once it came in, I went to pick it up and, when I saw the arm, I knew something was wrong. It was only one part of what was needed to make this switch work. Again, since this isn't in the book as something that works, they printed out the exploded view of the arm and told me I'd probably need all of the other parts too, ten of them total. After review, I ordered six of the ten parts and, during installation, found out I really only needed three of them. I took the other parts back for a refund after the install.

The second order of parts came in, I went and picked them all up and went home to change out the wiper. It's a perfect fit and, if I wasn't taking pictures and stuff, it'd have taken a whole 5 mins to do the replacement (or do I call it upgrade?!) If you like the look, have a few bucks, and a simple socket set, you can truly do this in 5 mins. This is one of the easiest things and most satisfying look I've done on my D.

Parts to order:
5135583AA = Arm wiper (I paid $33, $38.64 list price)
55077453AA = Cover - Wiper (this goes over the nut. I paid $1.95 @ retail)
5135584AD = Rear blade (articulated in three sections and is really the second part of the arm. I paid $10, $13.98 list price)

Parts to reuse from your Gen1:
The nut that secures the existing arm to the shaft.

What to do:
Remove the bolt cover on the rear wiper. I was able to pop it off with my fingers (1st time it has been off since the factory put it there.) Remove the nut with a socket. Once the nut is off, the arm doesn't just fall off. Work it a little and it'll come straight off. I thought I'd need a puller, or would have to pry, but just a few seconds of moving it back and forth and it comes right off. The shaft that goes thru the arm has groves all around it that match up with grooves in the hole on the Gen1 arm. The hole in the arm also tapers from wide to narrow.

Take the two parts of the new wiper and squeeze the end of the blade mounting section while placing it into the end of the arm. It'll simply click into place on the arm. Prior to leaving the dealer, I looked at a Gen2 on the lot and took it's wiper on and off (10 secs) so I knew how it fit together.

The hole on the Gen2 arm is tapered like the Gen1 but doesn't have the grooves to match up on the spindle. Also, the bolt hole is in a section of the arm that's spring loaded. It pivots so it springs out when you pull the installed arm away from the glass. On the Gen1 arm, the entire section pivots. On the Gen2 arm, the pivot section is concealed inside of the arm. Once I placed the arm where I wanted it (the starting/off position), I used a screwdriver to press the pivot section inward towards the hatch and then I placed the nut on the shaft and tightened it down. Otherwise the pivot section would be in the way slightly and there wouldn't have a lot of threads for the nut to latch onto. NOTE: The nut won't go on as far as it was with the Gen1 arm but the new nut that I returned "was" identical. Once tight, I supported the arm and tightened the nut down again because the tightness and pressure on the pivot piece is what holds the arm on keeping it from slipping since there are no groves on the Gen2 arm as mentioned above. I'm sure the old saying is 'tight is tight and too tight is broke', so don't over do it! If I had to do it over, I'd add Lock-tite to the bolt before I tightened it. I'll go back and do that sometime soon.

Once the arm's in place and the nut is on, just pop the cover/cap in place to cover up the hole. The caps between the Gen1 and the Gen2 are dramatically different in size and style. There's a little section that tucks up towards the arm in a slot like place and then the cap pops in place. It can't go on wrong, so this is simple. Once the cap's in place, you're done!

Thing to note:
The Gen2 arm looks like it could be heavier than the Gen1 arm, however this isn't the case. The plastic on the Gen2 arm is much lighter than the metal on the Gen1 so there should have no ill effects to the wiper motor.

Also, the Gen2 arm is a full 3 inches shorter. In this case, size really doesn't matter because the wiper clears a section that covers what you see in the rear view mirror while driving. I believe the engineers simply found out they could cut a few ¢ off the production costs by shortening the blade without effecting drivability.

Rant:
So it was inconvenient to have to go to the stealer three times (twice to get the parts and again to return the extras.) However, since this was all experimental, I accepted that (side bar: the Gen2 chrome 'billet style' fuel door is only listed for Gen2 Ds however, it's also a "bolt on" replacement for all Ds - proven by the one I had and then sold to another DOCer which fit fine on both of our Gen1 D's!) What makes me rant is that, when I returned the extra parts to the counter, I handed them to the guy and he started the return process. Then he said there was no refund on the nut because for some reason they'd billed me $0 for the (outrageous) $2.85 cost. In fact, it was right there on my invoice at $0. I said, "Well then, I'd like the nut back." and the guy was shocked. He said "We can't simply give you the nut back at no price." Huhh Okay?!?! Didn't I just return it? Had I noticed I'd paid $0 for it, I'd have left it in my pocket. It was just that little comment and action that sorta rubbed me the wrong way (having a bad day anyway.)

Anyway, hope this helps someone else accomplish this simply, yet satisfying upgrade (that's what I'm calling it now.) Here's the pictures, broken up over three posts. Enjoy!

IndyDurango

EDIT: Just completed the swap on a 2001, while the instructions above were all from my 2000. The arm is a tiny bit different on the 2001+ at the nut/hole/spline area. Even if you think there's a washer behind the nut? there isn't. It looks like it, but that's just part of the arm. You'll see when you get it off. I picked and picked at the washer-looking-area thinking it was holding the arm in place. In the end, it was just the spine semi-rusted in place.

So when your spline is holding the arm in place and it seems like it won't come off, use this $13 tool and it'll come off in under 60 seconds. The part is a AC655 remover Windshield Wiper Arm Remover This URL is for the Let Me Google That For You site = http://bit.ly/IWX3Fx

Having the tool also makes it easier to remove the front wiper arms when you need to take them of every few years for a sanding and repainting.
 

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#152 ·
Zen said:
Sounds like a lot of work just to change the rubber on the blade. If you've already done the Gen2 conversion, just order a new Gen2 rear wiper blade from DodgeParts.com. I feel like I'm missing something though. :?
You're missing the difference between his $5 DIY replacement part and the costs of the dealer replacement part. He has to swap out just the rubber insert because the dealer part is all one piece? rubber insert and 1/2 an arm that connects to the other permanent piece.

The missing element is the cost of the replacement dealer part. I'll go get one this month and let you know.

IndyDurango
 
#153 ·
Been thinking about replacing the rubber when it goes too. I like the idea of just changing out the rubber. Saves money and gets me into the garage! :mrgreen:
 
#155 ·
Well, OEM blade doesn't quite come off so I used pliers to yank the blade off of the spindle. Can you guys check and see how far the blade arm goes? I can still see the metal shaft and don't think I put it back on right. I backed out too soon and the garage door bend the factory arm.

Why I took it off for a blade is now beyond me??

T/U
Gregg
 
#157 ·
I just crossed paths with a fellow D owner tonight. I know he probably frequents this forum or another one. How do I know this? He had a Gen 2 rear wiper mod on his Gen 1! :cheesy: Saw it at a stop light. He was turninf left, I went straight. Gave him a "thumbs-up", he honked twice. Felt good to have kinda sorta met you, man. Maybe we'll meet again in the neighborhood. Oh, yeah, I have a few center caps if you want them. :thumbsup:
 
#159 ·
You're welcome.

As I've stated many times, this was the easiest and most rewarding mod I've ever done to my D. The improvement in looks is outstanding. Whenever I drive up on another Durango, I look at the rear wiper and, if it's been swapped for a Gen2, I know instantly they're an enthusiast just like me. :)

On the swap, all the instructions are in this thread from "what parts do you need" to "what you need to watch out for"? it's all in here.

Post a pic when you get yours done.

IndyDurango
 
#163 ·
Nice job Cristo! :clap:
Steve
DOC Pres
 
#165 ·
Just a little over a year on my rear wiper conversion and the blade is already torn, and I'm very fussy about using the wiper without the window being wet. I need a silicon blade!

I've never had much luck trying to replace inserts! WhiteD, you didn't happen to take a picture of everything you did to swap out the blade did you?
 
#167 ·
It's just weathered it looks like. The very edge of the blade is separated and along the blade there's a few spots where it's cracking and separating. :?

Not really a big issue, it still looks nicer than the OEM! :)
 
#168 ·
Try another. Like I said, mine is original from the start of this thread in Feb 2002.

Maybe I'll go ahead and replace it to take a close look at the rubber. Still wipes fine however. I'm very picky about that too and I use it a lot. I know some guys never use the rear wiper.

IndyDurango
 
#173 ·
Update:

I was replacing the stocker rear arm on our newer 2001 R/T, it still has the original in place, pitted, rusted and ready to go, and pulled up this thread for a quick refresher before I headed out for the swap. I sourced the parts at the stealer who took 2 days to get them in.

On the 2001, I wasn't sure it was exactly the same setup as my 2000 and, once I got the nut off, there appeared to be a washer behind it. The arm wasn't coming off, even when I wiggled it as suggested in the original instructions. In the end, even if you think there's a washer behind the nut, there isn't. It looks like a washer, but it's just part of the arm as you'll see when you finally get it off. I picked and picked at the washer-looking-area behind the nut thinking it was holding the arm but, in the end, what was holding it in place was it was semi-rusted to the splines.

So, what's the answer to a sticky wiper arm rusted to the spline? Use a $13 AC655 windshield wiper arm remover tool and it'll come off in under 60 secs (for the "where do you get one" crowd.) Having the tool also makes it easier to remove the front wiper arms when you need to take them of every few years for sanding and repainting (which I also did with the rear wiper swap.) Use a rattle can of high temp, semi-flat, black BBQ paint on the arms after a sponge sanding and they'll look as good as new.

IndyDurango
 
#174 ·
Ok, about to change out the rear wiper (OEM Dealer part) for the Gen2 wiper mod. I know some above have used the Anco and Trico, but do you think a rear wiper blade from 'Silblades' will fit into the assembly?

Side Note
This month I'll also be changing out the front wipers (older version of Silicon 'Silblades') with either a new pair of 'Uni-Silblades' (silicon), 'Michelin Stealth', or RainX Latitudes (rubber.) I really like how the silicon wipes the glass over time and that may be my choice.

Thanx,
Joe
 
#175 ·
tomk has mentioned seeing an aftermarket part that works, however not just any old blade will. The blade is attached to a special part that's the wiper and it snaps into the arm. it's all one piece (see photos on post #1.)

IMHO, the new wiper is superior to the original and I still haven't swapped it out for a clean/replacement since the stocker Gen2 swap I original did for this write up. It's the same one today and is still working fine. My suggestion is you can't go wrong with the stock parts, especially since we know they work just fine.

HTH,

IndyD