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How low can I go?

5.1K views 13 replies 5 participants last post by  greg  
#1 ·
If I'm putting on 275/45R20 tires, how low can I take my 2WD without rubbing or having to trim the body. I know there are only 2" and 3" lowering kits for our vehicle, but I'm not sure if the 3" will cause rubbing.

BTW, are the ride heights different for 2wd and 4wd D's?
 
#2 ·
Hey NonEvo,

2wd is easier to drop than AWD. Lots of folks have posted problems with a 3" drop, mostly with bottoming out shocks and/or bump stops. I did 2" (AWD) and I'm not totally pleased (doing Toxic Drop Shocks next week.) I'd recommend a 2" drop, unless you're willing to make some concessions (ride quality) on the 3" gig. Definitely plan on trimmed/modified bump stops and a shorter shock.
 
#3 ·
WarrensD said:
Hey NonEvo,

2wd is easier to drop than AWD. Lots of folks have posted problems with a 3" drop, mostly with bottoming out shocks and/or bump stops. I did 2" (AWD) and I'm not totally pleased (doing Toxic Drop Shocks next week.) I'd recommend a 2" drop, unless you're willing to make some concessions (ride quality) on the 3" gig. Definitely plan on trimmed/modified bump stops and a shorter shock.
Is the ride quality with the 3" drop for 2wd as bad as with AWD/4wd? I know that lowering the torsion bars makes for a really bad ride.
 
#4 ·
I'm dropping just the back 1". I measured the front and back wheel wells and the rear was higher by that amount. Just evening it out and with an inch I should have neither shock nor ride issues and be able to keep the Ranchos.

greg
 
#5 ·
Hey Greg, I don't see the 1" blocks available anymore. If you find them, save me a link (if I don't get my issues resolved soon, I'm going back up.)
 
#7 ·
DJM has them. That's what I used, the 1" steel block kit.

Greg,

If all you're looking to do is even it out, it'd be a lot cheaper to tweek the torsion bars up in front a little.
 
#8 ·
Neil, I think DJM pulled them (I only see the 2" & 3" now.) Hopefully it's a moot point, since I hope the Toxic Drop Shocks and going back up 1/2" in front will solve my issues.
 
#9 ·
Neil, I'm not sure how tweaking the torsion bars will lower the back-end an inch. Can you explain? Also since I had to take the bars off to get my cross-member off for the tranny pan install it's not something I'd like to contemplate again?

greg
 
#11 ·
Again I'm not sure I understand. The torsion bars help frame rigidity and stabilization. What I can't see is how tightening or easing the torsion bars is going to raise or lower anything.

Also, I want to lower the D an inch for aerodynamic and stability reasons. Given the propensity of SUVs in general to flip over (a policeman friend of mine was killed when his D overturned - and no he wasn't wearing his belt.), I'm not interested in raising it another inch with the 31x10.5R15 tires I have on now.

greg
 
#13 ·
The torsion bars serve the same purpose as front springs on a 2wd. One end is anchored at the front A-arm and, where it's anchored to the frame at the rear, it's set in a rotating key. Twisting the key changes the torque (spring rate) on the rod providing more or less spring tension. If you tighten the key, it increases the spring tension and raises the front (that's what all the folks here who've done a TS lift are doing.) If you loosen the key, it reduces the spring tension and lowers the front. Both will obviously affect the ride.

Greg,

I think you're confusing the sway bars with the torsion bars. The sway bars control roll and stabilization. If it's stabilization you're trying to achieve, lowering the center of gravity will help. Replacing the sway bars is one of the best things to do. The Hotchkis sway bars are the best mod I've done. I've had them for 6+ years and it was night and day. Body roll was eliminated.

You may find that you need to lower the front a tad with the 1" blocks. You may be down in the butt a little. When I did the blocks, I don't think mine was level. I maintained the factory rake by cranking down the torsion bars. I don't remember how much I went down in the front. Actually, I went a little lower in the front later.
 
#14 ·
Neil you're absolutely right I was thinking of the sway bars :oops: and if you've ever messed with those it's not something you forget! I had to loosen them to the point of limpness to remove the crossmember to get the tranny pan to fit? a nightmare.

Thanx for clearing that up and apologies for not catching on.

greg