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Front turn signal LED conversion

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#1 ·
Has anyone tried converting the front turn signal to LED's? I have just now began to research this. I did it on my JGC with success and have done it with some other vehicles. In the past you have needed to use a pretty bright LED so it can be seen when your headlights are on. I will update everyone with my progress but wanted to check and see if anyone else has tried this yet.

Thanks
 
#100 ·
You may be able to find some kind of aftermarket harness to make it work, but the easier/safest bet would be to contact a dealer and see if there is a DRL option they can turn on in the PCM. Some markets (Canada) require DRLs, and if they use the signal bulb as a DRL, then they should be able to turn it on, but if they use the headlight instead, then that won't work.

My 2008 Fusion was set from the factory to have no DRL function, but I've seen plenty on the road that use one of the headlight bulbs as the DRL. Recently my PCM died and had to get a new one and programmed. I had to specify for them to turn the DRL option off.

So there may be some hope there, but they may also charge you $100 to do it. Unless you're in for service like an oil change and updates, then they may be nice and do it for free.
 
#102 ·
For anyone with a 2014 Durango Limited (not an SXT!), I can confirm that the JDM AStar 3157s (item #JDM ASTAR-3157-5730-21Y) found on Amazon do in fact work right out of the package with no resistors necessary. My Durango has the LED DRL strips under the headlights, along with the LED supplementary signals in the mirrors (I'm assuming all Durangos with the "racetrack" tails have LED in the rear). I was a BIT skeptical, as earlier references to these bulbs seemed to be from guys who have SXT trim and I don't believe that trim has the LED DRLs or supplementary mirror signals. Other comments/recommendations were from owners of 2013. Furthermore, the product description on the Amazon page DOES state: "Note you might need to add 50W 6-Ohm load resistors or change flasher rely to prevent the LED bulbs from hyper flashing". Given that the two locally purchased options I tried (see below) needed resistors to work right, I wasn't overly confident.

Since I'm impatient, and because I could get them right away, I tried the Pilot 3157A bulbs that claimed to be CANBUS-Ready from Wally World, and they worked as HAZARDS (although I don't think they were much brighter than the incandescent bulbs), but not as turn signals- I got the 'bulb out' error on the dash and the dash indicators and mirror lights hyper-flashed. I got the SAME result using the Sylvania ZEVO Super Bright 3157A LED bulbs from AutoZone: hazards flashed normally, but using the actual TURN SIGNAL caused the hyper-flashing indicators/mirrors and a "bulb out" error. I did NOT try the Sylvania LED 3157A bulbs that were also available at AutoZone.

Again, I tried those two bulbs only because they were locally available and I could try them right away. Once I found they would require resisitors I returned them both and ordered the JDM AStars (ordered on Friday 9/30, they were delivered today 10/2, a Sunday. Thanks Amazon Prime!). I was a bit skeptical if these would work right out of the box on my Limited, but I quickly installed the passenger bulb (since that one takes all of 30 seconds to swap), and first off, I was thrilled when I oriented it correctly the first time (quick test: hit your remote unlock button, and the signals flash- if your LED bulb doesn't light up, turn it around and re-seat it). The initial act was to activate the hazards which of course worked fine (supplementary signals do NOT light up with the hazards), then I turned the Durango on and activated the turn signal. I expected a few flashes then the error, but no error was noted! So I swapped in the driver side bulb (that side is NOT just a 30 second swap...I want to throat punch the engineer who arranged that! Although even with moving the airbox around, it's only a couple minute job, but it's a tight squeeze on the forearm), and then took a short drive to get some coffee, and no errors popped up even with all the left and right turns I need to make to get around the maze of one-way streets near my house.

I hope this might help someone who's running a Durango that DOES have the LED DRLs/Supplementary mirror signals to know that these JDM AStars DO work, and are pretty darn bright as well. For my money, they should do the job pretty well. I obviously can't yet speak to the durability...that remains to be seen, but you can get four sets of these bulbs shipped to you for less than one pair of the Amber-only Triton V3s ($110/pr). The JDM AStars may not be as bright as the Tritons, but they ARE brighter than stock to my eye. I don't have pics/vids, but perhaps if requested, I can do so.
 
#103 ·
might have to try them if they truly are plug and play... was considering the Sylvania Zevo 3157 Amber and adding resistors.. but I'd be about $30 going that route while having to tap in the resistors... but for $25, and no wiring, gunna have to try these.. thanks for the detailed post on them... as I will be putting them in a 2014 Limited as well!
 
#109 ·
Plug and play? No light out warning OR hyperflash?
 
#111 ·
And no resistor needed?
 
#114 ·
Installed LED turn signals today. I got the bulbs from Automotive Lighting & Accessories: HID Kits | LEDs | Audio/Video. After reading the forum and comparing all the different types I figured I would give these a shot from a local Seattle company. I went with the "3157 3057 4157 – 30W CREE LED Bulb" for $29.99. They also have an 80w for $39.99 but I compared the lumins between 30w and 80w, the 30w is slightly brighter than stock. They are plug and play out of the box. No errors/alerts/rapid flashing or any resistors needed, just the led bulb.



Install was simple. I did have to loosen the coolant reservoir on the pax side cause my man hands couldn't quite squeeze behind it. Driver side was simple cause the K&N is much easier to get behind than the stock air filter.



Left (pax) side is the new LED, right (driver) side is stock bulb.
 
#118 ·
Installed LED turn signals today. I got the bulbs from Automotive Lighting & Accessories: HID Kits | LEDs | Audio/Video. After reading the forum and comparing all the different types I figured I would give these a shot from a local Seattle company. I went with the "3157 3057 4157 — 30W CREE LED Bulb" for $29.99. They also have an 80w for $39.99 but I compared the lumins between 30w and 80w, the 30w is slightly brighter than stock. They are plug and play out of the box. No errors/alerts/rapid flashing or any resistors needed, just the led bulb.
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Install was simple. I did have to loosen the coolant reservoir on the pax side cause my man hands couldn't quite squeeze behind it. Driver side was simple cause the K&N is much easier to get behind than the stock air filter.
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Left (pax) side is the new LED, right (driver) side is stock bulb.
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Funny how different the coolant tank is on the 3.6 vs the 5.7. Was nothing to move on mine to get to the passenger bulb.
 
#120 ·
Tried installing LED switchbacks on my SXT+....the new LED lit up white with parking lights on (like it should) and blinked at the normal speed with the turn signal. However, the inside turn indicator hyper-blinked, and I had a bulb out warning/chime.

For those of us to have to use a resistor to cancel the bulb out/hyper-blink issue, where and how did you mount the resistors?

After poking around under my hood, it seems the best place would be the steel radiator support/frame cross bar just under the hood behind the radiator. There are some holes already stamped in the bar, if I can find a self tapping sheet metal screw of the proper size. The holes are slightly larger than 1/4" and smaller than 5/16", tested with drill bits to try to gauge size.

Thoughts?
 
#121 ·
That should work, as long as mounting on metal... they get pretty hot
 
#123 ·
Have them mounted behing the tail light housings on my 2011 for 2 years now with no issues..... mounted to metal body ofvD, but very close to rear, plastic tail light housing with zero issues thus far..... and i just checked them
 
#132 ·
I want to switch front turn signals to LED's in my 15 citadel with standard HID's. it looks as I have a choice of Aaron amber's, JDM A stars & Luyed 2's. Which work best that are long lasting and don't require resisters. I see some only have a 3 month warranty which is not inspiring and are the 15's subject to the CK socket issue.
Thanks. Teddy
 
#133 · (Edited)
Adding my own experience to this. Just swapped some Sylvania 3157A Zevo bulbs on my 16 R/T. No hyperflash or message on cluster.

Edit: forget the no hyperflash or cluster message. Both just popped up.

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#134 ·
So the JDM a stars don't require resistors? Which set or is it any of them I see regular and switchback. I would think switchback would be white when parking lights and flash amber when signal on. I'll probably just get regular since I have led DRLs I have a 2014 citadel. So will any star JDM Amber 3157 led bulbs work I see several on Amazon listed with that name but don't feel like messing with resistors.

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#135 ·
I just put "JDM ASTAR Extremely Bright PX Chipsets 3056 3156 3157 4157 LED Bulbs ,Amber Yellow" in my 2017 R/T, and they work perfectly, plug and play, no resistors needed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PHTXWQS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I first tried "LUYED 2 X 900 Lumens Super Bright 3014 78-EX Chipsets 3056 3156 3057 3157 LED Bulbs", which did not work out of the box - hyperflash mirror and dash lights, nothing in front lights.

I think the JDM ASTAR will work for you.
 
#136 ·
I ordered the luyed ones last night so I'll try them if they don't work I'll send them back to Amazon and get the JDM astars wonder why they work for some but not others.

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#137 ·
For anyone else doing this the luyed bulbs are good quality bulbs however on mine they would def require the resistors 14 citadel. Returning them to Amazon and getting the JDM astars. I did at the same time however order the luyed for my Jeep Wrangler and I must say for the brake light and parking lights and turn signals they work good. Wrangler is switch out a relay and Bam LEDs work no resistors needed. The rear back up lights are also the luyeds great quality bulbs.

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