I think we need one big exhaust thread. There are so many different options, I’m confused now lol. As of this moment I’m thinking to leave the mid muffler and replace the rears with vibrant 1790s. But I’m open to other options, I’m not doing a cat back. On my scat pack it was easy and everyone basically did the mini race bullet swap or vibrants for mids. The Durango is not so easy in my opinion. Flowmaster always has a nice deep tone but sometimes comes with dreaded drone


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Yea super 44 and the super 40 have waaayyy less drone than the old school 40s but it definitely has that old school lope I love. I agree if one of the admins was to pin a exhaust thread that would be great

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I’m super happy with my resonated MF mid muffler and 2.25 Blastin bobs. I just wish the fitment was a little better, and sometimes I wish it was a little louder at WOT.

I might have a muffler shop swap out the BB’s with a set of MF 2.5’s to some tips that fit a little better than the BB’s.

 

so, has anyone here done that? If I were to just replace the rear's with super 40's or 44's, what would that sound like? so leaving the mid muffler and adding these to the rear should add a little volume, a deep tone, and no drone? If so, they could be a good option.

 

so, has anyone here done that? If I were to just replace the rear's with super 40's or 44's, what would that sound like? so leaving the mid muffler and adding these to the rear should add a little volume, a deep tone, and no drone? If so, they could be a good option.

The last time I did a non cat back exhaust set up was on a 4.6 mustang, it had long tubed, straight pipes to 40 series. It was the best sounding exhaust I've ever heard.

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I also have heard some videos of the mopar performance exhaust, it sounds the best I've heard so far I think, as it doesn't seem to have drone and has a great tone and loudness from what I can tell, but of course it does as it's also about 1500$ LOL... just trying to replicate that sound for a lot less money... there must be a combo of muffler and resonator similar to what they use and if so, then the rest is just piping?

 

Depends on what type of sound you want. I found that the Black Widows and Flowmasters seem to have a pretty close sound. The sound reminds me of my neighbors Fox Body Mustang I heard every morning growing up as a kid. That was my alarm clock for zero period during high school haha. I went for a more rounded sound. So I have a Borla 2.5” 2 in 2 out Borla in the middle to a Jones X Pipe. Then replaced rears with 14” long resonated 4” tips. The tips I had ceramic coated matted black. It sounds great. It’s not quiet but it’s not obnoxious.

 

Here’s a video of the same set up. The dude had flowmasters prior and there was a lot of drone. So he opted for the Borla set up and it corrected the issue. I am grateful he posted his experiences because it helped me figure out which direction to go. The sound has a deeper tone once broken in. Very little to no drone.

 

Here’s a video of the same set up. The dude had flowmasters prior and there was a lot of drone. So he opted for the Borla set up and it corrected the issue. I am grateful he posted his experiences because it helped me figure out which direction to go. The sound has a deeper tone once broken in. Very little to no drone.

Sounds good. I checked out his page and the reason why his prior set up had crazy drone was due to him using two flowmaster super 10's and no resonators.

If he went with the same same set up he has now in the video, but used a Flowmaster super 40 (dual in/out) it would be a bit deeper sound than the borla and drone would be minimal as well.......just another option form those that like Flowmaster and want to limit the drone.

 

ok now we're making progress.. wish I could hear this in person or driving lol... I hear you on the foxbody, I had an 89 lx with flowmasters, it did sound amazing back then lol.
do you mind sharing what parts you used? Hopefully this is still less expensive than the Mopar exhaust which it should be... I guess any of these mufflers replacing the mid will do, like a borla, or magnaflow, or something that give a good tone, then to some better resonators... why is the x pipe needed? just curious or is it needed?

 

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I put a Jones X Pipe and Borla 2 in 2 out with both openings at 2.5” in replacement of the stock mid muffler and removed the rear resonators. Then installed 4” 14”long resonated tips. I had the tips ceramic coated in matted black. Looks great and sounds great!
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Here’s my challenger that I just sold

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If you're a fan of the Flowmaster sound, the kit they sell, Force II, is solid. The mods could create an exhaust thread, but my only request is you post your age and check yes or no if you think straight pipes sound good. With those data points I can easily get good info. FTR: I'm 48 and think straight pipes sound like steaming brown piles of garbage juice, its the worst trend in automotive history. I too grew up on big blocks and 40 series flows, so the Force II is an updated version of that sound but not obnoxious.

 

If you're a fan of the Flowmaster sound, the kit they sell, Force II, is solid. The mods could create an exhaust thread, but my only request is you post your age and check yes or no if you think straight pipes sound good. With those data points I can easily get good info. FTR: I'm 48 and think straight pipes sound like steaming brown piles of garbage juice, its the worst trend in automotive history. I too grew up on big blocks and 40 series flows, so the Force II is an updated version of that sound but not obnoxious.

Agreed. I’m 49 and as much a car guy as anyone but I have no desire for straight pipes. Many scat pack people removed the mid muffler completely with no replacement and it just wasn’t for me. I do not want that here either that is why I’ve been asking so many questions as I see so many options and I don’t want a mistake.

There are so many different opinions on what to do to the Durango I’m confused.

Do I leave the mid muffler and change the resonators in the rear to vibrants, Gibson’s, or something of that nature?

Some say reverse and remove mid muffler and leave resonators?

Some say remove mid muffler and swap to x pipe or a performance muffler but then what to do with the rears?

So many combinations, I think I’m going to ask my exhaust shop as they do great work and surely have an opinion... perhaps replace rears first and see how it sounds... if not enough then remove or replace mid muffler?

I really like the sound of the Mopar performance exhaust but not willing to spend 1500$... must be a way to “replicate” that sound for a lot less like on the scat packs with one simple replace....


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I went with a mid muffler delete, replaced with a h pipe, Flowmaster outlaws right after the h, then SRT tailpipes/resonators down the line.

I wanted less on the raspy side but still aggressive when I punch it and I'm very happy. Daily driving, it's audible in cabin but tame enough for my picky gf.

I would say don't hesitate to experiment if you have the means 🤙

 

I went with a mid muffler delete, replaced with a h pipe, Flowmaster outlaws right after the h, then SRT tailpipes/resonators down the line.

I wanted less on the raspy side but still aggressive when I punch it and I'm very happy. Daily driving, it's audible in cabin but tame enough for my picky gf.

I would say don't hesitate to experiment if you have the means [emoji1690]

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Wow that sounds mean... very interesting... does it drone and is it very loud while non wot? Also what do you mean srt resonators? What exactly is that?


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The problem is there are so many options and different setups it’s hard to figure out.

Some remove mid muffler some don’t. Some remove rear resos some don’t. Some remove both etc.

I thought I had it figured out to just start. Y relaxing the rear resonators with vibrant 1740’s or carven r’s and see how that goes. If not enough then remove mid muffler but now I see not many people doing that.

Then I thought replace mid muffler with performance muffler and leave rear resonators like a magnaflow in the middle...

Now I’m just confused. I do t want over loud and I don’t want drone. My scat packs were all loud but they had 392 and sounded glorious... I know the Durango is different and I don’t want to make a mistake


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I talked to black widow exhaust, they recommended their angry housewife mufflers. They stated its aggressive but their mufflers won't have drone. That beind said my intention is to cut out the mid and rear resonators, gut the cats and put on the mufflers with a H pipe.

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So now we’ve got true mufflers like
Black widow
Flowmaster
Magnaflow
Borla
Corsa

Resonators like
Carven r
Vibrants
Dynomax race bullets
Blastin bob glass packs

I’m sure I’m missing a bunch that I can’t think of off hand but so many choices lol....


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Did the FlowMaster Force II on my 2018 R/T , bolt on for the most part. I watched the installer hand weld some extra hangers but that was it. The sound was great but improved even more over the course of about 3 - 6 months it changed and got deeper. I tried removing the resonators in the rear at 1st and that was an absolute mistake! Sounded awful and nothing but drone sound. Use caution if ordering directly through FlowMaster their sales associate stole or sold my credit card information.

 

this is what concerns me LOL.... at first I thought just replace the rear resonators with vibrants or something but the last thing I want is awful drone....

I just havent had time but I have 2 great exhaust shops nearby that I trust so I'm going to ask them if better to just replace mid muffler with a performance muffler and possibly add the X or H pipe. maybe using magnaflow competitions or something more aggressive like black widows or carvens... or if better to replace them with a resonator type like vibrants... problem is there is no way to know what will sound best. my very limited knowledge indicates you can tell how it might sound or how loud it will be somewhat based on the size and design of what you're installing. On my scat pack the mini race bullets were LOUD (very short and small) , then next Scat I tried the magnaflow competitions in the mid section and the "tone" was probably the best I've ever heard but it wasn't "loud" enough (they were long and wide), on my last challenger I went with the longer vibrant 1794's and they sounded very good, a perfect blend of tone and volume... but, the durango is a completely different setup , motor size, different pipe size, and way different OEM mufflers and resonators so I'm back to square one lol.

keep em coming with any setups you all have and your experiences.. in the scat pack forums, the members there were so great and honest, their input helped me tremendously and it seems this forum so far is very good too... there is nothing better than someone that tried a mod or setup and their honest review, good or bad lol...

 

BTW, it remains that the best setup I've heard yet (through videos anyhow) is by far the OEM Mopar performance exhaust, this is the sound I'm trying to get to without forking over $1500 LOL

 

I'm changing my current set up to flowmaster Super 40 (Dual in/out) to xpipe 2.5" pipe to 14" resonated tips.

There are a few videos of this exact set up, but using a borla turbo XL or pro XS instead of the flowmaster. All have said this set up has little to no drone. My personal opinion is the flowmaster actually changes the (tone/sound) of the exhaust instead of masking the rasp like most of the others.

 

Do you have a link for the resonated tips

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interesting... if you happen to have a link to a clip it would be great, I'll search and look. sounds like that could be a good setup, just so hard to tell on video... when you say resonated tips, does that mean a resonator built into the tip? It seems in general as we need some type of resonator back there regardless of what is done in the mid section, I believe that is what keeps the drone out if I understand correctly?

 

so here's one with a borla single muffler, x pipe, out to resonated tips. it's just hard to tell on the video, the true volume or "loudness". the tone sounds good... I'm thinking a setup like this but maybe with something a little different instead of the borla.... wonder how this would sound with some angry wife's LOL, then to x pipe and resonators or resonated tips...

 

yes, thats one of the videos I was talking about. I think the Flowmaster would create a deeper tone with this set up.

 

Hollywood704......link below. these are the ones used in the video Heat00 posted.

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I have the different tends also. They do the job. I had them coated in matte black.

 

right so I think we all agree we need resonators at the back... now the big question, what muffler in the mid section and is the x or h pipe needed? what about flowmaster outlaws, or black widows in the mid? guess its experimenting time (well as soon as my durango gets here)... driving me crazy not having it and not knowing when it will arrive lol

 

well, some type of resonators or resonated tips like the ones I posted the link for. I think if you go Flowmaster you go with the one dual in/out. Any that I have heard (other than the cat back systems) tend to produce way too much drone when having two Flowmaster mufflers.

 

Yea I’m just wondering if there is a better choice of muffler maybe... why chance drone at all lol.. what about the outlaws ?


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Borla!!!!

 

I picked up a complete SRT catback off Craigslist. There's a few of them floating around for under 300. They look just like the RT catback, only difference is the pipe diameter (2.75" SRT and 2.25" RT) and the inside of the resonators. RT resonators have a convoluted design and the SRT resonators are straight though.

SRT catback before I modded it

Complexed RT resonators

 

Wow that helps... now I see the problem lol... yea no need for those complicated resonators for sure... replacing those alone with straight throughs should help.... I might start with that and see how it sounds then if not enough, goto a mid muffler replace .. not sure yet. Vibrants might be perfect back there as they are long not like the mini bullets, so they lend themselves to a deeper tone not so raspy, a little quieter but a good trade off on the scat pack it was enough anyhow... not sure how it will be on this rango


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B.O.R.L.A.!!!!!

 

Have not done it yet, but I found only one video on you tube and it sounds great.

Also may go this route since all I would have to add is the blastin bobs with magnaflow glasspack as seen in this video. This sounds great as well. (Mid muffler delete, x pipe, blastin bobs res delete with magnaflow glasspack)