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Engine Start-Stop feature

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#1 ·
I am still trying to get used to this feature and have thought about turning it off multiple times. Anybody here leave this off and if so, is there a noticeable difference in MPGs?
 
#40 · (Edited)
An ESS override solution

Smart Stop Start - Home is now a DodgeDurango.net vendor!

Please visit our website if you want to control the default for ESS disable on your 2016 or 2017 Dodge Durango with the V6 Pentastar. This module plugs in you diagnostic port under the dash in 10 seconds and remembers your preference for ESS disable.

We are currently offering $25 off and free shipping.

I am happy to answer questions.
 
#41 · (Edited)
IT Appears that ESSCHOICE is a paid vendor on the site whom is not listed as a site supporter or vendor. So I followed my gut which was wrong. Please give our supporting member ESSCHOICE a welcome.
Thank you for your understanding that we are trying to make sure that all members are protected.
STEVE
 
#43 ·
Your welcome, If you notice your name now has supporting vendor under it. Your account wasnt fully processed yet earlier but you are all set now Good luck
STEVE
 
#44 ·
I have this module on my Durango and it works flawlessly. Well worth it. Only suggestion would be to offer an OBD2 "passthrough"on it in case one wanted to add another, say, OBD2 plug in module for whatever. But it might interfere. Just a thought. Love your work! I honestly expected some kind of downside, but absolutely zero issues. Well done guys!
 
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#48 · (Edited)
Dittoes.
Maybe $90-100 because the price of the non-programmed OBDII module alone costs about $60-70, (though, not wholesale). Nor do I begrudge anyone from making an extremely good and well-deserved profit from putting a 'plug-n-play' package like this together. This plugin is definitely worth $90-100, and maybe even the asking price. I like it's other features too, like defeating the eco and beast mode initialization settings.
However, when we can go on Amazon and buy a "Adjustable Trigger Delay Time Relay Module" for less than 10 bucks, the only issue becomes "where do I wire it into the DD"? -- Where to insert it into the DD's existing push button circuit with minimum fuss. And since the service manual is so outrageously-priced at-present, us 'po boys' will just have to wait for Chilton, Haynes, and/or the public domain to catch up with MOPAR's latest tech.
 
#54 · (Edited)
I "bit the bullet" and have no regrets. I thought it was pricey too, until I looked into it (no, REALLY looked-into it, by opening-up the dash to the point of seeing what is behind it).
And yes, while each mode button can be overridden using an individual delay circuit I submitted in earlier in this thread for each mode button, it cannot be done without voiding warranties, or being able to re-install the back-plate using the same hardware. It could be done for around $10 per switch and 5 hours labor.

When I got the SmartStopStart module, I saw WHY it was priced so high... I opened it up.
Obviously, I voided it's warrantee (they come with an awesome one), but I had to see for myself what was inside the case.
Being very curious about this stuff due to my hobby and background, this not my first warantee-voiding rodeo. I do it to most of my new electronics, "to hell with guarantees, the education is usually worth it". My poor DD is in for a rough life in that department. I can just SMELL the mods coming later! ;)
By my estimation, it would cost me about $70 for the components, then would take me about 14 man-hours to make the PCB and assemble it. This does not take into account the original R&D and design time, money and talent that I, or someone else would have to come up with for the concept on-paper, then the first prototype build.

I'm sure once you gear up for producing these, your costs would reach somewhere around $100 from components-to-assembled per unit, on a production run of 100 units or less. So at $100 per unit, that would be "breaking-even".
That is just my personal "guestimate", but long shory stort, the gizmo is worth the asking price. I'm 100% glad I bit the bullet.
 
#56 · (Edited)
Oh, I agree 100% on the lack of logic Dodge used in not allwing those preferences to be set by the actual owners of said Dodge.
But there's more GOOD news about this SmartStartStop box -- It does give you 'set-preference' to all three of those buttons.
It's autonomous and totally harmless to the vehicle, or any of it's components.
The only 'caveat' with it, is that it does offer Dodge's service the legal authority to deny warrantee service, so you must remember to unplug it before taking your DD in for service.
 
#57 · (Edited)
Special $40 off discount SmartStopStart for Forum users in July '17

Dodge Durango.net forum users are being offered a special price of $109.95 ($40 off regular price) during July 2017 for the SmartStopStart module.

It includes free Priority Mail shipping in the US (and First Class Mail shipping overseas).


Here is the private link for this special deal: Special Offer

This module sets the default Engine Stop Start (ESS) enabled/disabled start-up default to your preference. It is a 15 second plug-in installation in the diagnostic port under the dashboard.

It is available for the 3.6L Grand Cherokee and the 3.2L Cherokee models with Engine Stop Start (ESS).

If anyone has a question see my website below or contact me.

-Steve
 
#59 ·
2018 Support for SmartStopStart ESS override module

The 2018 Dodge Durango SmartStopStart modules are now in stock and shipping at www.smartstopstart.com !

At this time the GT, RT, and Citadel models are supported.

We currently do not support for the SXT or SXT Plus models, but hope to have these early next year.
 
#60 · (Edited)
SmartStopStart ESS memory module now available for all 2016 through 2018 V6 models

The 2018 Dodge Durango SmartStopStart modules are now in stock and shipping at www.smartstopstart.com !

At this time the GT, RT, and Citadel models are supported.

We currently do not support for the SXT or SXT Plus models, but hope to have these early next year.
We have now added support for the '18 SXT and SXT Plus.
 
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