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Better Mileage Challenge for the DSRT... VALET MODE!

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#1 · (Edited)
So Im not sure if anyone has even mentioned or tried this yet that I've noticed in the forums but I wanted to see if there are people who are willing to take the challenge. The challenge is to see if valet mode will get you better mileage than auto/eco mode. This challenge will take 2 tanks of gas to complete. For 1 tank of gas you need to honestly and accurately calculate your mileage with auto mode and ECO mode on for the whole tank or close to it and drive your normal routine. Then once you have you mileage numbers for that tank, fill up with gas and switch your DSRT into valet mode and leave it in that mode for that whole tank doing your normal routine as done previously. This challenge may work better for those who do long trips back and forth where they travel on the same roads and at the same time everyday and also run out of gas faster so we get quicker results.

My theory started a few weeks ago while I was playing with the valet mode on my DSRT. The manual says that valet mode puts the car in 50/50 mode and disables launch control and etc, it also reduces engine power to a minimal level as noted when in the car when you do switch on valet mode. When in valet mode the DSRT will start in 2nd gear and reduces power by about 70%. As I was trying out the mode I do see that the engine power is greatly reduced from what Im used to and Id say it acts more like a weak V6 motor. I floor the pedal in second gear and its very sluggish and gets up to over 4k RPMs before switching 3rd gear but 0-60 is like 12 seconds overall. That being said if the computer is able to reduce engine power to act like a true V6 or even a 4 cylinder then maybe the gas savings might be better than when the motor goes into MDS cylinder deactivation mode. I am unable to try this myself as my driving habits and routines change from day to day and Id never be able to honestly and accurately keep the same route routine for 2 tanks of gas. As I said earlier this might be best tested by one of us who drives on the freeway a lot and constantly. even if its not city driving if we could accurately track the true mileage of a DSRT on Eco/auto mode for 1 tank and then do that same trip with valet mode then maybe we might see a difference enough to give us a answer if this works or not. The only problem i see doing this is that like almost all of us like to floor that pedal for some spirited runs here and there and with the valet mode on you won't get much. Now if you were to do this and do some spirited runs and were able to do the same thing on both tanks then go for it and just note that fact. Anyone that hasn't tried valet mode yet should check it out for half a day or whatever. Just see how much power is reduced to the engine, you be amazed. Luckily with the exhaust tune the way it is it will still sound good.

So who's up for the challenge and will do it honestly and accurately?
Please record your numbers and findings. Give us how many miles your driven both tanks and the MPG calculated when in each driving mode. if you went 300 miles on one tanks before you filled up again for your second tank then please calculate your numbers at 300 miles as well for the second to keep things the same. Let us know if you did freeway driving mostly or city etc. The more info the better. I suggest starting in Auto/Eco mode for your first tank to get the baseline MPG so you know what you should at least achieve if not exceed in valet mode.
 
#6 ·
Even if you could get 30 mpg by leaving it in Valet mode, who is going to do it?

Try driving it for a while in Valet mode and you will know what I am talking about.

Also, Do Not try to pass anyone on the highway in Valet mode, Ever!
 
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#7 ·
Eco mode is annoying enough and i rarely use it (sometimes in traffic just to get the second gear start). I can't imagine wasting 2 tanks of fuel (~600 miles???) just to play with gas mileage info while I drive a seriously detuned performance car. Fuel mileage on these cars may be an interesting data point for some but if it a quest, then you are in the wrong vehicle.....

And, as someone noted....not sure if it is wise (from a longevity perspective) to drive the car for that long with such a serious detune.....
 
#10 ·
I guess some people here don't get my point. I never said you had to do it, if you dont want to do it then you dont have to. I was just asking if anyone wanted to do the challenge or not. We all know valet mode does. My point was to see if anyone knew or had tried this out of curiosity to see which mode would get you better mileage. No I didnt buy my DSRT for the mileage, that's kinda like DUH... I was just trying to see for those people and times where maybe we dont need all the power and do want to get as best of mileage we can get for a trip or to see which mode works better. Dont start with all the negativity about doing it or not, If you haven't done it or dont want to do it then just shut up and let others who interested in finding out do this and reply back. Also if you are not worried about the mileage then dont complain about it taking 2 tanks of gas to test the theory out. I would do it if I could but like I said i just dont have a consistent driving routine and dont do many long trips at all to even try it. I know deep inside most of you are wondering now what the mileage would be in valet mode since ive mentioned this topic. Heck use just half a tank for all I care for each mode to see what you get. If anyone ever takes a long trip and doesn't need the power and wants to get the most out the tank of gas then why not do it. a extra 4 miles gallon could go a long way. Just saying.
 
#11 · (Edited)
As previously posted, two major concerns are:

1) Can running in Valet mode for an extended period of time cause damage to engine components (Google "engine lugging")?

2) Attempting to drive in traffic at highway speeds in Valet mode is Not safe.
 
#13 · (Edited)
4 mpg? I would love to be the guy (or team) who invents the affordable, practical engine where you can push a button and toggle between high performance and a >20% fuel economy/efficiency increase. If that existed on the SRT or on any other vehicle, I think we would have heard about it.

Our "eco" mode, which is supposed to maximize fuel efficiency within practical realities, yields a barely measurable MPG increase. Why would we think that Valet mode is more efficient than that?
 
#14 ·
What's funny is this person asked everyone else if they were willing to try a challenge that they are not even going to try themselves due to whatever the reason they want to say. My comment was based on experience from driving the vehicle in Valet mode mostly cause I was curious how it performs in that mode since I was about to take it somewhere that we would Valet park. After driving it on the highway trying to maintain speed, I have determined that I will not put myself or my family at risk of driving a vehicle that can barely maintain 70mph on the highway, let alone going uphill. Especially since we drive Texas roads that have several that are 80mph. I personally do not recommend driving it in that mode. It was designed to keep Valet drivers from having fun in your vehicle. Thank you Dodge for putting that feature in. If the OP wants to drive theirs in that mode, I say good luck
 
#15 ·
If I could permanently disable default "auto/eco" mode I would. I just made a round trip drive from Phoenix to San Diego. Drove to SD in auto/eco. Drove back to Phoenix in sport mode. The mileage difference was negligible. Tank and a half there, tank and 3/4 back. What's that savings? 15 bucks? Valet mode is for valets imo.
 
#17 ·
Bottom line is that I was asking who wants to take the challenge... you have valid reasons for not wanting to do it and I get that, but my post was for those are who interested in doing it. How would reducing power be bad for the motor? dont we already do that with Eco mode? The benefit of auto/eco mode is that if you need the power then you have it where Valet you dont. All i wanted to know is if no one had previously done this type if experiment then who would be up for the challenge. Thats all. I haven't seen anything posted or on google about valet mode not being good for your motor or else why would it even be a option? Its there to reduce power, doest have to just be for valet but that was the first and main thought about having this type of mode im sure so the valet guys couldn't joy ride in these high powered cars. I dont see anywhere in the manual that says this is meant just for valet only. If i was teaching my gf or my mom or brother to drive this car and wanted them to get used to the vehicle first I would put on valet mode for sure so they dont get into trouble. Besides isn't there a warranty on powertrain for 5 years? mhmmm yes there is.
 
#18 ·
ECO mode does not reduce power. It changes the shift points of the transmission to allow you to get into a higher gear quicker to provide better fuel economy.
Why is VALET mode an option if FCA didn't want us driving around in it? Because the engineers assumed that we would be smart enough NOT to drive around in "valet" mode.
Doesn't have to be just for valet? The name itself implies you are only going to think about using it when you hand your car over to a "valet" parking attendant. How are you not understanding that? They didn't label it "reduced power" mode for a reason.
According to FCA, Valet mode limits the engine to its "lowest power output state". That would change the entire dynamics of this vehicle and, at least in my case, isn't something I want to experience.
Maybe you're right and the engine wouldn't be damaged. So go ahead and try it and let us know how it goes.
 
#27 ·
This is a SRT discussion so it does belong here. Just cuz you dont want to do it doesnt mean it doesnt belong here. Not to be rude but this wasnt a post to force anyone to do anything. It was a challenge, so if you wanted to do it then so be it. If not then just move on to the next post. You can comment that its dumb but im sure everyone is at least thinking in the back of their mind what would be the difference between the 2 modes. I guess if everyone just complains and doesnt do it then we wont ever know. Oh well
 
#34 ·
I've had my new SRT a whole day, and quickly discovered I didn't want to use ECO, so can't imagine driving in Valet mode. I can understand wishing for better mileage, but we all made a decision between "hold my beer" performance and "tree hugging" gas mileage when we bought the SRT.
 
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#35 ·
Here's my challenge - someone lend me your DSRT for a few weeks, I promise I'll do the valet mode challenge. I might put a few thousand miles on it inbetween the challenge fill-ups though ..... :)

Honestly, I'm in agreement with most here, I wouldn't drive more than a few miles in valet mode.
 
#37 ·
I don't mean to be rude or insensitive, but I didn't buy an SRT to worry about gas mileage, tire wear or any other expenses that goes with owning a hot rod. So I guess it surprises me to see your "challenge" question. Of course my reply pretty much mimics all those preceding me. So let me ask the group a another question since I'm in the writing mode.
My '2019 proudly displays a tachometer as the predominant gauge. I wish it could be swapped with the worthless speedometer off to the side but a least they let you digitally display your speed in center area of tach. But here is my real gripe -- How do you quickly acquire a tach indicator that is nothing more than a red arrow tip. Even my SRT Challenger had a typical needle with arrow tip at the end. You could quickly pick it up when power shifting. Not so with the wonderful design in the Dango. At the track in the sun and a visored helmet on, the darn arrow is sometimes impossible to see in time to be of any use.
Sorry, for butting in our your challenge but I don't get around to writing very much.
 
#38 ·
After about a month with my DDSRT, I'm finding the mileage in auto mode to be roughly the same as my 2012 DD Hemi Citadel. The more efficient transmission and lack of power steering pump drag have apparently had a positive impact. I had expected a drop of two MPG or so, but happy to find no sacrifice compared to my previous DD. I'm not going to worry about gas mileage.