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I have a 2015 RT AWD, and have done some research into the following items (Blue means verified MOPAR Part numbers):

Must have items:

1. Engine 6.4 Upgrade replacing 5.7 (I found 3 shops to do this, one resells your 5.7 to get the price down to 9-11K depending on mileage)(I am doing my own swap to keep costs down)

Avondale Dodge (Josh Bjarko-Parts Mgr) has agreed to work with us on providing entire packages for this and will be getting me all the part numbers and items needed for all options listed here. They currently are selling the 6.4 for $6000 with a $750 core. They are working up an installation price for the swap as well. Price subject to change monthly. PM me if you want more info on Avondale Dodge and who to speak with for parts.


2. Hood - 68309501AD $685
Silencer / Heat Damper - 68309355AD
Hood insulation pin x 9: 04878883AA $4.95
Bezel Right Side (grill): 68309356AB $11.50
Bezel Center (grill): 68321446AB $18.00
Bezel Left (grill): 68309357AB #11.50
Hood Front Seal 68084598AC $28.52


3. Front Fascia / Grills : *** see link I created below****
Fascia 68320617AA $399
Core Charge- $100
Lower Grill 68320617AA $32.00
Fog Light Bezels L&R 68307808AA + 68307809AA $26.88 x2
FA Grills L&R 68307812AA + 68307813AA $5.75 x 2
Spat-Front L&R 68299198AB + 68299199AB $11.19 x 2
Applique 68377772AA $69.13


3B. Fog Lights, wiring, lights, etc... in process.

4. Rear Fascia (Multiple Rear Fascia choices)

Rear Upper Fascia #1 68092093AB $198.75 (Pics pending)

Rear Upper Fascia #2 68304552AB $295 (Pics pending)
Core Rear Upper Fascia #2 $100.00

Rear Bumper Cover 68304551AA 280.00
Core Rear Bumper Cover $100.00
Rear Lower Fascia 6DQ33TZZAA $203.75
Core Rear Lower Fascia $100.00
Sill Molding L&R 6DR80TZZAB +6DR81TZZAB $171.25 x2
Applique 68307817AA $46.00


5. Exhaust- 6.4 headers installed by the company doing the engine swap - all new pipe to the rear, SRT mufflers from the dealer.
6. Performance Pages - AE tool, or ODB Genie
7. Recovered Seats- new SRT logo - Katzin or ?

8. Shifter bezel and handle
6FE061CCAC SHIFTER-TRANSMISSION $173
6FC27DX9AC BEZEL-GEAR SHIFT INDICATOR $395
68322226AC SHIFTER-TRANSMISSION $215
No BCM Flash from what I was told- pending installation to verify


9. SRT Instrument cluster
10. Brembo Package, Larger wheel and tire package- in process

Secondary item- depending on your vehicle and budget
11. Suspension -
depends on your budget and if you are starting with an RT, or a GT or SXT
12. Front and Rear Diff Ratio currently 3.09 on RT- Recommended upgrade to 3.45 gear, 3.70 is the current SRT - upgrade options being researched
13. AWD System- - depends on your budget and if you are starting with an RT, or a GT or SXT
RT is 50/50 split, however SRT with launch control shifts power 30/70 to the rear

Exterior- Dress up items. Items

14. Wheel Flares
6DR87TZZAB $114.00
6DR86TZZAB $114.00
6DR84TZZAB $114.00
6DR85TZZAB $114.00


15. New AWD Badges

New style AWD Badges
Gray & Black: 68366241AA $22.71
Red & Brushed Aluminum: 68366244AA $2.93
Red & Chrome : 68354593AA $19.15


SRT Grill Badges * Other Durango Badges-
to be posted!
16. Door sill plates- SRT
17. Light up SRT horn pad - Dealer items
18. SRT Floor Mats
19. Billet Catch Can if you don't already have one

I am working with a local dealer on these upgrades and if anyone want to help me put a package together, I am up for it. I personally would love an SRT 6.4 but don't have the equity in my 2015 to just get out of it, I owe under 31K, it supposed to be worth 35K - I can't see going more than double back in debt for the difference. I know the suspension and suspension tuning will be the hardest part, as also with the driving modes, but I am thinking most of us don't own a Durango because we want to keep the Track/Strip racing button down all the time, especially as soccer practice?

I also own a SRT Charger, so I know what I am talking about, we supposedly have 360HP and the SRT Charger has 485, yet my 2014 Ram with the same Hemi has 390.
So I guess we lose 30HP to the AWD? who knows. So its roughly 100HP we are talking about buying and some body tweaks, and some badges and logos. I personally feel the suspension diff between the RT and the SRT is negligible, especially since if I need to get nutty, I will take my SRT Charger out, the Durango is the family truckster, I just want it faster. :)

Let me know if any interest. I am not doing some poser - just throw emblems on there BS, I want to do it right, so its engine, fascias, brakes, the whole thing.
 

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it's ok Craig, I already did the math and it can call be done for under 14-18K depending on if you stop before the suspension, but hey, thanks for throwing that out there without looking it up!
to me that's half the price of an SRT without interest and depreciation, so that's pretty damn good. The difference in payment alone is $300-$400 if not more. I bought my lease out, so my payment would go up about $600 to double up now on what I pay, and that's $7200 over 1 year, almost 15K over 2 years and for that I can do this upgrade and owe ZERO in 2 years, and have a shit-ton of equity compared to someone leasing a new one.
 

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Here is the skinny guys- body style change coming in 2019-2020 at the latest. I hate driving around an old body style, unless its paid for- so up to you- I honestly don't care if anyone wants to do this or thinks it stupid, I just know that some dude put up a really nice mod page for the RT, and I thought this might be nice to do for people who cannot swing a 70-75K lease/purchase for an SRT 2018 and for sure don't want to be stuck in it when the body style change comes in the next 2 years.
 

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For someone not in the market for a NEW Durango, this might be cost effective. But if you are in the market for one, you're better off buying the SRT. You can pay for the mods and upgrade an RT but, how are you paying for those mods, cash? Because if you're using plastic, are you figuring in your interest on those purchases? Most cards have an interest rate way above what you'll pay for a car loan.
In the end, it's YOUR truck. If you want to mod it up, go for it. You seem to have a pretty good idea of what you want and how you want it done. If I had modded up my 2014 RT I most likely would not have pulled the trigger on the 2018 SRT.
As for the difference in HP for the RAM trucks, I believe it is due to the exhaust system design, which flows better in the bigger trucks. Though I could be wrong.
 

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Thank you for the info Moe. I just get frustrated when people don't remember what we learned in kindergarten. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. If you still want to run your gator at least have some backup or something substantial to add, as in your post. That is the problem with all this social media today- people can just say anything and hit click and walk away. I want to do something constructive here, and i hope it helps others.

Mantis, i will post my upgrades as i do them and get new prices.....
 

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http://www.dodgedurango.net/forums/durango-appearance-2011/53362-2018-exterior-part-numbers-3.html

love it Craig- not to be a downer, but I am already doing this on a whole different thread on this same site. Really dude? you just had to say something and you are already buying SRT conversation parts? whatever.
I started looking for the hood parts 3 weeks ago, you posted this thread last night. Huge difference between swapping out a hood and making a clone out of two year old truck. And grow up dude...what are you 10. Getting mad when someone doesn't agree with you?
 

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craig, just have something to say, don't be a child and post and click for attention, this is not facebook. If you cannot add something substantial, then don't post anything at all. Now people have to scroll thru 2 of your useless posts and mine now asking you to stop. You don't even get it- timing has nothing to do with what bothers me, your post was useless and unfounded. Moe's post made a point. Granted these upgrades don't have to be done all at one time, and cash is the best way to do this, but even then the insurance increase alone on an SRT plus the payment is what some people pay for a house. So sure if you want a new Durango and are ok with $70-75K, SRT is the way to go, but if you have one and you want to keep it, like mine, you might want to know about the upgrade options. You are just pissed you bought your ride recently and didn't wait for the SRT. I saw all your threads dude. Just let this go so the rest of us can enjoy the forum and help each other.

Lets try this again, if you don't have anything nice or constructive to say don't say anything at all. if you want to keep rattling on, no one can stop you, I am not going to waste anymore time on this.
 

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I'll add in to your list.

11. Front and rear diff is different ratio (3.70) and I believe has e-LSD.
12. AWD system is different.
13. Will require exhaust work as 6.4L has factory shorty headers which require a different down pipe which will then require a reducer to merge to the smaller diameter R/T exhaust.
Probably will loose a few hp there.

Its one thing to add the 6.4L/brakes/wheels and a few exterior trim pieces, it will be another to add all the features.
In the end, just don't put a SRT decal on it and be a poser.
 

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BTW, I'd be in for a 6.4L swap as that Hemi is superior to the 5.7L in just about every way.
I bet FE would be close to the same too.
The good news is with the SRT D release there are now parts available to make it so....and maybe a few donor cars in a year or 2.
 

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Good stuff Chase, now my Durango has 3.09 front and rear now - I had researched my SRT Charger, which also has a 3.09 rear- and figured that woudl deliver the same result. Same 8 spd tranny. So I am ok leaving the 3.09 front and rear if its good enough for my SRT Charger. Can you give me more info on this e-LSD? I will still post this as an option for people to do to put the EXACT same stuff, even if I don't do it. I want this to be a master list for upgrading with DIY stuff, not just my story of me upgrading, which is why I really value this type of input.

As for AWD being different- that's new info- I will have to do some research on that.

Agreed on the headers, the companies that quoted me the swap are going headers with all new pipe to the mufflers. There is a small reduction there, as it attached to the mufflers, which to be honest, I am reconsidering the SRT mufflers now as going thru all this expense and time, and for it not to sound like an SRT may just be me being silly.

I agree, as we go thru this upgrade everyone will be at different places for the next year or two or however long and there will be donors. It will be a sad situation to see a brand new donor, but I will cherry pick the piss out of it if I find one!

I have updated the master list with your item- thank you!
 

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I kinda disagree on the 6.4 being that much better. You can upgrade the 5.7 to put out the same, or more power than a 6.4. I wouldn't want to do the whole swap and make an SRT clone. I'm going to add SRT seats to my R/T but will most likely get the SRT replaced with R/T in the seats. Also, the AE tool won't support '18s until December of NEXT year. Maybe when '17 support officially comes out this year it will be supported but not holding my breath. Also, the tazer currently doesn't work in the 18s which tells me they changed something between 17 and 18. The rest of the stuff, I'd be curious to see how this all works out. The trans is the same. The gearing in the diffs can be changed.
I say good luck with it, it'll be interesting to see.
 

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Ekaz- i have heard the same thing, the 5.7 is more bulletproof and can handle more boost than the 6.4 due to the length of the stroke? which is why the hellcat and demon are 6.2. The 6.4 though is a monster normally aspirated and this is a Durango, so the real issue here is what are we gonna do when they make a Supercharged SRT Durango like the Jeep got? lol. too much to even think about now.

However for this exercise, we can talk about going down a Supercharger tangent and keeping the 5.7? but I don't want to appear to be a poser. You really can't call it an SRT, but in the end, a supercharged 5.7 I am sure will be faster than a 6.4 stock install.

AE tool isn't an issue as none of us have a 2018 that we are doing this to, we all have 2017 or older, as we are assuming anyone who bought a 2018 would have just bought a SRT if they wanted one like Moe said. I would love some specs on the gearing differences if anyone has that... higher gears because less engine RPMs? is that what the SRT is doing in 2018? all things we will need to work thru together.

Please keep us posted on the SRT seat upgrade. I am hoping to find a donor myself, or go Katzkin, but if you find an easy way, let us know and post some pics. I only have 20K miles on mine, so my seats are still like new.

Good stuff, thank you for posting!
 

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You're not going to get 100+hp out of a 5.7L without a blower or having serious drivability issues.
The only issue I've heard with the 6.4L and supercharging is the stock intake can't be used such as Procharger or Votech typically do with their kits.

Now I agree supercharging the 5.7L is the most cost effective way to get SRT like power.

The Charger 392 does have 3.09 gears like the D Hemi, but its also 1,000 lbs lighter, has 125hp and 75tq more and turning a 28.7" tire vs your taller 30.4" tire on the Durango.
Your AWD system only has a selectable low range.
The AWD system in the SRT D has different selectable modes including launch control. I believe the main difference is it can transfer more of the power to the rear full time, so say 70% instead of a 50/50 balance.
Not that it is needed, but just noting there is a lot of content added to the SRT over the R/T.
 

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You're not going to get 100+hp out of a 5.7L without a blower or having serious drivability issues.
The only issue I've heard with the 6.4L and supercharging is the stock intake can't be used such as Procharger or Votech typically do with their kits.

Now I agree supercharging the 5.7L is the most cost effective way to get SRT like power.

The Charger 392 does have 3.09 gears like the D Hemi, but its also 1,000 lbs lighter, has 125hp and 75tq more and turning a 28.7" tire vs your taller 30.4" tire on the Durango.
Your AWD system only has a selectable low range.
The AWD system in the SRT D has different selectable modes including launch control. I believe the main difference is it can transfer more of the power to the rear full time, so say 70% instead of a 50/50 balance.
Not that it is needed, but just noting there is a lot of content added to the SRT over the R/T.
For sure there are differences. The 6.4 also has the same thin ringlands on the pistons, so it can't handle much boost. A good cam, heads, headers, and tune will get you close to SRT numbers but I agree that some sort of FI is the quickest way to get to those numbers. As for the different drive modes, I used sport mode and never used track mode or launch control. I live in Chicago so there really isn't any road where track mode is useful and a lot of people get better launches without launch control. I have nothing against the SRT, I've had SRT's since '06. There is a lot of wiggle room where people can mod their R/Ts to get what they want out it without spending the extra 15-20k on a Durango SRT.
 

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Save your self the time and money. Do a stroker kit on your 5.7 and already start with more hp and tq then swapping in a 6.4. Plus it will be forged and ready for boost.


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K&N Intake, Fastman 86mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold, 180° Thermostat, Corsa Catback, Grocery Getter Strut Brace (paint matched), Diablosport Trinity, Jay Greene Tune

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Gorilla Black Lugs, Luxe Taillight Tint, Front Windows 15% Ceramic Tint, Yellow Fog Lights, Weather Tech Floor Liners, Mopar Grille Emblem, Steering Wheel AUX Buttons, Tazer

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ATI Underdrive Pulley, ARH Headers, Ported Heads, Custom Cam, Whipple Supercharger

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