IMO ADM isn't dirty dealing....its the free market at work. We don't have to like it, but it's a hallmark of the anti-trust and anti-price fixing laws that promotes competition.

Not sure what BMW may have done but manufacturers have to be careful; they can get themselves into hot water if they try to control dealer pricing (vertical price fixing)....

Dealers are the customers of the manufacturers. Consumers are the customers of the dealers, not of the manufacturers. How would we like it if the manufacturers told us what we could resell our cars for? Or...how would we like it if the manufacturers could forbid dealers from selling below MSRP? It cuts both ways....

 

I was wondering does the 23 DDHC still have the OEM brake dust issue?

 

Brake dust aside, the stock Brembo setup performs extremely well at the track. I have driven the tires off my DDHC at Road Atlanta and VIR and not once experienced brake fade. I switch back to the Powerstop performance ceramics when I return home from the track to avoid the brake dust issue for the other 355 days a year.

 

Of course, it still comes with Brembo pads.

 

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Mopar Monday Stats - July 31, 2023 - DDHC production has averaged about 50 units since my last update. Production total just passed 1550 with just over 1500 shipped (my data lags a bit). All 2023 colors are now in production with a few Red Oxide and Night Moves DDHCs being produced. The BIG NEWS is that the suede headliner has returned to the Premium Trim configuration and is listed on the window sticker. It looks like it went into production in mid-July with VINs higher than 666XXX, but I am still working to confirm the exact cut in. As a result Dodge increased the Premium Trim cost by $305 and I still need to confirm that that includes suede A-post covers as well (I assume it does.) Nothing else new to report except a few random line items that show up in build sheets. In the last two weeks most of the build sheets show a "3.8L BADGE" a few lines below the "6.2L S/C HEMI V8 SRT ENGINE." Maybe Dodge is preventing theft by down badging DDHCs! (I think it is just a configuration error) The other weird line item I saw recently was "CLONED VEHICLE TRACKING." Enjoy your week!

 

Can you provide an example of a VIN that has the suede headliner?

1C4SDJH99PC672590 has the black headliner per the build sheet. Is it more random then just higher then 666XXX?

 

See my update post above. The suede headliner thing is still a mystery as it is far from consistent. I will add to my tracker going forward how many get suede headliners.

Suede Headliner Build Sheet

 

Mopar Monday Stats - August 14, 2023 - DDHC production continues at a clip of about 40 per week. Production total recently surpassed 1660 units (my data lags a bit). Dodge finally updated the allocation list on July 25 and only 65 dealers remain (the original list last November had 743). 451 DDHCs are showing as "available" in the US on the Dodge website. No change for Canada in the last two weeks. The suede headliner mystery continues as I have not cracked the code yet as not every Premium Trim DDHC built recently receives the suede headliner. They aren't prioritized to sold versus dealer stock orders or to certain colors. Be lucky if your build gets one is all I can say. With Base Trim models being built now I inserted a bar chart into the options chart which highlights options on those builds. Nothing confirmed for 2024 just yet and I am still trying to find out if 2023 production will run until the end of December. Stay tuned!

 

This suede headliner thing is really been a bummer for my DDHC ownership so far.. i was absolutely expecting it when i ordered a premium and was very disappointed when it arrived without it. I thoroughly enjoy my DDHC but everytime I get in it that one little thing just it like nails on a chalkboard. If anyone has Tim K's email that could PM me i would appreciate it.. id like to share my experiance with this with him.. thank you!

 

Mopar Monday Stats - August 28, 2023 - DDHC production has surpassed 1800 units (my data lags as always). Not sure if Dodge is pushing the high profit stuff out before the possible strike or what as production last week was nearly double the previous several weeks. Over 540 units showing on Dodge's website with more dealer stock orders being built daily it seems. I still haven't cracked the suede headliner option code as there doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason as to which Premium Trims will get it and which ones won't. I did confirm that DDHCs built with the suede headliner do get the matching A-post covers as well (as the should). Have a great week and enjoy a few decent shots of a Vapor Gray DDHC as a bonus!

 

I have been looking at DDHC's online with the red interior like our 22 DDSRT but some have the Red Trim on the dash like ours and some do not. I would guess it is what is available on the line the day of production.

 

I believe that's the difference from the Plus and Premium trim.

 

I found a few more Suede headliner equipped vehicles when I was calling around today. Despite the increased volume hitting lots most in my area are not budging on their 'market adjustments'. One dealer quoted me 30k over on the phone. They called me back later and came down to 5k over.

 

Curious what's happening this week. Now I'm addicted to tracking the lightweight option breakout.

 

Mopar Monday Stats - September 11, 2023 - A day we will never forget - DDHC production soldiered on as JNAP closes in on 2,000 units produced for the model year (my data lags a bit). The BIG news for those that haven't heard is that the DDHC will continue into the 2024 model year along with the TRX as the only Hellcat-powered vehicles left. The Hellcat-powered TRX will cease production on December 31, 2023, but the DDHC should continue for the entire model year. Only change for 2024 is that Vapor Gray will no longer be offered. 2024 production should start November 6, but that is heavily dependent on the pending UAW strike. Random factoid for this week is the first ever Destroyer Gray DDHC with Bright Blue Mopar dual stripes rolled off the line, there hasn't been one with that combo in two years worth of production. Dealer inventory continues to pile up with nearly 600 either on lots, in transit, or being built. Enjoy your week!

 

Dealers stocking inventory ahead of a potential strike might be a good opportunity to break some of the "market adjustments".

 

My dealer has a Hellcat on their lot for 3 weeks now. I think the market adjustments are going to break organically but a strike will help that

 

At this point, it looks like the market is about saturated with Hellcat Durangos.

Based on the pie and bar charts, I'd guess the unsold inventory now consists mostly of Premium trims, in black, white or destroyer gray, and quite a lot of those with stripes and black package.

 

610 on the Dodge site as of today.
376 Premium Trim
157 Plus
77 Base
233 DB Black
138 Destroyer Gray
128 White Knuckle
45 Vapor Gray
32 Octane Red
15 Night Moves
14 Frostbite
3 Triple Nickel
2 Red Oxide
549 with the Black Package
74 with Black/Redline stripes
34 with Gunmetal stripes
14 with Bright Blue stripes
8 with Flame Red stripes
8 with Sterling Silver stripes

 

Thanks for the updated charts. Now a grand total of 12 Hellcat Durangos in Triple Nickel, 5 in Red Oxide, and a total of 11 Lightweight packages in any color.

 

Current breakdown for Lightweight Packages is 6 DB Black, 2 White Knuckle, 1 each of Vapor Gray, Triple Nickel (yours) and Frostbite.

 

So, back in 2020 when I ordered mine, I ordered it with the Lightweight package and in Vice White . . . Clark says there is only one other vehicle that comes close to the order combination I have, and that one has blue stripes . . . since I got it, though, I had the suede inserts replaced with real black leather, and added a set of 3rd-row seats, so now I have the ability to haul around 6 passengers with me

 

Lol will be the last of the HC vehicles into 24...so glad I got my 1 year only 21....

 

You can look at it like I do--it was the only year when you had options to select other than "Base", "Plus" and "Premium", and had MUCH better pricing . . . the ones in 23 and 24 are/will be "cookie cutter" versions . . .

 

Looks like the 2025 Durango with the hurricane I6 will be the true one-year-only model.

 

My sold-order Durango is listed as "coming soon" on the dealer website.

I checked the VIN.

And it's discounted $2,868 off the MSRP.

The Durango Hellcat market is definitely saturated if they are trying to discount sold orders.

 

As a data point just had front brake pads replaced(oem) 890. at my selling dealer.

 

btw a 11k mile 21 HC sold for 80xxx at mecum while a delivery mile 23 sold for 140k the same day......thanks Timmy

 

A '21 with 1300 miles sold on Bring a Trailer today for $77,000.

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Another data point. I just picked up my custom order 2023 Durango Hellcat, in Triple Nickel, base model with lightweight package.

The dealer tore up my original ADM deal and we went back to something more reasonable. There has been a change in the market, for sure.

I thought Vice White was a great color (and it still is), but Triple Nickel is pretty nice as well. No pics yet because we are having torrential rain. When the sun comes out again, I will try to post some.

 

with 2024s on the way the 2021s are on track for BMW levels of depreciation now

 

Glad I sold mine when I did...

 

Dealer might be able to flip it for more locally, but it's worth what it sold for. There were '21 hellcats at Mecum this past weekend year that didn't do that great either.