I ditched my brembo pads at 4k miles because the dust is awful.
2021 Dodge RT Tow N Go Brembo Brakes Pads Wore Out
On my 2021 Dodge Durango with Brembo Brakes I had to replace my brake pads at 20K and they were pretty much wore out. Couple things I want to note. I never towed anything up to that point and I don't drive the vehicle very hard. In all the new vehicles purchased in recent history, including a GT 500 Mustang Shelby and a Dodge Challenger SRT8 I never replaced brakes that soon. What's really unusual is the rear brake pads were worst than the front. That part I figured out as most newer vehicles are setup to engage the rear brakes first to eliminate nose dives.
The second part of why they wore out so quickly took a bit longer to figure out. Went to my dealer and they did not have a clue as to why. Giving it some more thought I came up with a theory. My vehicle has all the technology stuff including adaptive cruise control which I used all the time. Started thinking how the car keeps slowing down to adjust the speed?Then it hit me... they are constantly using the brakes and cruise control to adjust the speed. Went back to the dealership and ran it by them and they agreed with the idea.
The next point I want to make is the cost of replacing the pads with factory parts (most likely made by Brembo). Retail price on front and rear pad are over $1250 plus tax. Here is where I decided to look for a lower cost alternative. Power Stop makes great pads for a fraction of the cost. They provided me with the part #'s of their product and found them on Rockauto delivered to my door for $117 total for all 4 wheels. According to everything I read you give up a bit of cold stopping power but everything else is excellent with virtually no dust on the calipers or wheels. I elected not to replace the Rotors since they were perfect and are working just fine. Changing just the pads on the RT is a piece of cake and you can view it on a U-tube video. Hope this might help you if you experienced a similar situation.
The second part of why they wore out so quickly took a bit longer to figure out. Went to my dealer and they did not have a clue as to why. Giving it some more thought I came up with a theory. My vehicle has all the technology stuff including adaptive cruise control which I used all the time. Started thinking how the car keeps slowing down to adjust the speed?Then it hit me... they are constantly using the brakes and cruise control to adjust the speed. Went back to the dealership and ran it by them and they agreed with the idea.
The next point I want to make is the cost of replacing the pads with factory parts (most likely made by Brembo). Retail price on front and rear pad are over $1250 plus tax. Here is where I decided to look for a lower cost alternative. Power Stop makes great pads for a fraction of the cost. They provided me with the part #'s of their product and found them on Rockauto delivered to my door for $117 total for all 4 wheels. According to everything I read you give up a bit of cold stopping power but everything else is excellent with virtually no dust on the calipers or wheels. I elected not to replace the Rotors since they were perfect and are working just fine. Changing just the pads on the RT is a piece of cake and you can view it on a U-tube video. Hope this might help you if you experienced a similar situation.
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That is an insane price, even by dealer standards.Retail price on front and rear pad are over $1250 plus tax. Here is where I decided to look for a lower cost alternative. Power Stop makes great pads for a fraction of the cost. They provided me with the part #'s of their product and found them on Rockauto delivered to my door for $117 total for all 4 wheels.
Curious, which PowerStop pads did you go with? They have a few different models for the Durango.
The fronts were Z231405 and the rears were Z231053B...both set come complete with new pins, clips, and lubricant. These were more daily driver level pads but are holding up extremely well with virtually no brake dust at all.That is an insane price, even by dealer standards.
Curious, which PowerStop pads did you go with? They have a few different models for the Durango.
Don't blame you it makes a mess. The only thing that makes it worse is if you take it to a car wash and instead of putting them putting the tire dressing with just a brush or applicator they use the bottle with an air hose and spray it on.I ditched my brembo pads at 4k miles because the dust is awful.
Then the dressing gets all over your wheels and Red Brembo calipers and it bakes on everything.
When I replaced the pads it took us longer to clean the wheels and brake calipers then the complete brake job.
To the OP I don't know why your rear pads were worn more than your fronts...but that is not normal. It would only make sense If your car was older/used and previous owner changed front pads only and the rears would be twice as old. Your conjecture that the car is designed to have higher brake force in the rear to reduce front "dive" is incorrect.All cars are designed for more front brake bias..it is safer and allows the driver some control under heavy braking along with abs to steer the vehicle...having too much rear bias would put many drivers in the weeds...Formula 1 drivers are the best in the world and If they get more rear bias even they can spin..
I just wanted to say my rear pads are up for replacement at 17k (under 3mm now) and the fronts still have a lot left. I don’t know why that is the case but my rear brakes appear to be wearing quicker than the front as well. 😳To the OP I don't know why your rear pads were worn more than your fronts...but that is not normal. It would only make sense If your car was older/used and previous owner changed front pads only and the rears would be twice as old.
very interesting. On my old 18 SRT I changed front pads once rears were ok after about 18k miles.That vehicle did not have tow package.My HC does have towing( I do not tow yet) so maybe there is something else going on...I will monitor pad wear on the 21..I just wanted to say my rear pads are up for replacement at 17k (under 3mm now) and the fronts still have a lot left. I don’t know why that is the case but my rear brakes appear to be wearing quicker than the front as well. 😳
Yeah I wasn’t expecting this but I have towed a half dozen times now and raced it so I figured maybe my usage had something to do with it. 🤔very interesting. On my old 18 SRT I changed front pads once rears were ok after about 18k miles.That vehicle did not have tow package.My HC does have towing( I do not tow yet) so maybe there is something else going on...I will monitor pad wear on the 21..
My source is a pretty experienced BMW tech. Let me check back with him as I may have misinterpreted what he said and maybe it was a BMW specific comment.To the OP I don't know why your rear pads were worn more than your fronts...but that is not normal. It would only make sense If your car was older/used and previous owner changed front pads only and the rears would be twice as old. Your conjecture that the car is designed to have higher brake force in the rear to reduce front "dive" is incorrect.All cars are designed for more front brake bias..it is safer and allows the driver some control under heavy braking along with abs to steer the vehicle...having too much rear bias would put many drivers in the weeds...Formula 1 drivers are the best in the world and If they get more rear bias even they can spin..
I swapped my RT to the brembo setup. Using the powerstop semi-metalic pads. Not as much dust as the brembos, but oh yeah, lots of dust. I do tow occasionally, so using the semi-metalics was required.
To the OP I don't know why your rear pads were worn more than your fronts...but that is not normal. It would only make sense If your car was older/used and previous owner changed front pads only and the rears would be twice as old. Your conjecture that the car is designed to have higher brake force in the rear to reduce front "dive" is incorrect.All cars are designed for more front brake bias..it is safer and allows the driver some control under heavy braking along with abs to steer the vehicle...having too much rear bias would put many drivers in the weeds...Formula 1 drivers are the best in the world and If they get more rear bias even they can spin..
Should My Rear Brake Pads Be Wearing Out Faster Than My Front Ones?
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I have a 2022 TNG with Brembo and have not noticed much of any dust accumulation. Could it be they are using different pads now? Thanks!I ditched my brembo pads at 4k miles because the dust is awful.
With all the supply chain issues they are experiencing now it would not be surprising if they are using alternative sources of parts.
Could be. Thanks!!With all the supply chain issues they are experiencing now it would not be surprising if they are using alternative sources of parts.
I have a '22 SRT...so maybe the TnG pads are different...i dunno, but the dust was awful.I have a 2022 TNG with Brembo and have not noticed much of any dust accumulation. Could it be they are using different pads now? Thanks!
Do you use Adaptive Cruise Control frequently? According to some reports, ACC primarily uses the rear brakes for speed control.I just wanted to say my rear pads are up for replacement at 17k (under 3mm now) and the fronts still have a lot left. I don’t know why that is the case but my rear brakes appear to be wearing quicker than the front as well. 😳
I had Z23's with Centric Semi-coat rotors. I think that my pads were defective. They were wake-the-neighbors loud, dusty as hell, and bite was horrible (Panic braking from 50mph wouldn't even get a chirp from the tires or ABS working). I was also getting MASSIVE amounts of brake shudder, and clear pad deposits/imprints on the rotors that only got worse over time. Despite NUMEROUS re-bedding attempts, and living with the noise and annoyance for like 2 years, I finally swapped everything out. Powerstop really stepped up, and I moved to their Z26 pads with their geomet drilled/slotted rotors (plain rotors, which I would have preferred, were out of stock). The 26's have been great so far. Much quieter, very little dust, and much better bite (both cold, and hot).The fronts were Z231405 and the rears were Z231053B...both set come complete with new pins, clips, and lubricant. These were more daily driver level pads but are holding up extremely well with virtually no brake dust at all.
Personally, I think the Z23's are a little inadequate for the Durango. It's the same "daily" pad recommended for the Challenger Scatpack/Hellcat, which weighs 1300+ lbs less than the Durango and uses the exact same pad. I'm pretty confident that the pads I had were defective, but even so, having driven the Z26's for a while I wouldn't hesitate to go that way again.
Oddly enough I think there are some vehicles where this is the case. I have a good friend with a C63AMG (RWD) and it uses the rear brakes as part of traction/stability (which the car can't hook up to save itself, it might even use them as a side to side virtual positraction or something) and it goes through them at 15-20k with the rears going faster than the fronts.My source is a pretty experienced BMW tech. Let me check back with him as I may have misinterpreted what he said and maybe it was a BMW specific comment.
Actually I do.. that would make a lot of sense.Do you use Adaptive Cruise Control frequently? According to some reports, ACC primarily uses the rear brakes for speed control.
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