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Hi,
I’m reaching out about a persistent vibration issue with my 2013 Dodge Durango Special Service Vehicle that occurs at speeds above 50 mph, especially under load. The vibration intensifies with higher loads and speeds and is most noticeable around 60, but lessens above 75 mph. Notably, if there is no load, even at higher speeds, there is little to no vibration. This issue has been ongoing for over a year, and I’ve taken it to shops, talked with mechanics and spent thousands of dollars trying to resolve it without success.
Here’s a summary of the work that’s been done so far, based on mechanic recommendations, with some work completed by shops and mechanics. All parts listed were replaced with new components, except for the differentials, which were replaced with used parts:
  1. Changed all lug nuts
  2. Replaced all brake discs (front and back)
  3. Replaced all brake pads (front and back)
  4. Changed front wheel bearing assemblies on both front wheels (twice)
  5. Replaced both front CV axles three times
  6. Replaced the front differential (with a used unit, but made no difference in regards the vibration issue)
  7. Replaced both rear CV axles
  8. Replaced the rear differential (with a used unit, but made no difference in regards to the vibration issue)
  9. Replaced both front and rear drivelines
  10. Verified correct tire balance
  11. Installed new tires
  12. Aligned the vehicle
  13. Replaced engine mounts
  14. Replaced the transmission mount
  15. Changed rear differential mount bushings
  16. Replaced front struts
  17. Replaced front springs
  18. Replaced lower ball joints on the left and right front
  19. Replaced Front Upper Control Arms
  20. Replaced front differential bushings
  21. Installed new bushings in the front lower control arms
  22. New front driver side outer tie rod end

None of the above items has made any difference in stopping the vibration.

At this point, nearly the entire front end has been replaced along with most of the drivetrain, except for the remaining tie rod ends. Despite these extensive efforts, the vibration persists. The only remaining drivetrain components that haven’t been addressed are the engine, transmission, transfer case and rear wheel bearings, (unless there’s another drivetrain component I may have overlooked). If I downshift at 60, the vibration frequency doesn’t change which suggests it’s not an engine issue. In other words the vibration doesn’t change at all in lower gears or higher engine RPM’s. Based on everything I’ve done, and what’s left, I suspect the transfer case may be the issue or rear wheel bearings, but honestly I’m at a loss as to the issue and this is just a guess on part., I’m hopeful that someone on here can me find exactly what’s causing the vibration.


thank you,
John
 
I guess you're not afraid to spend money and that you are driven crazy by vibrations. So you did do the driveshaft? Was it as a whole replacement along with the center bearing that is not a replacement part? Have you road-force balanced the tires? That's all I've got for you.
 
I can think of a couple things you haven't indicated:

- Torque converter shudder. Not uncommon, generally caused by incorrect transmission fluid. For the 2011-13 models, whether it's a 645RE or the A580, they require Mopar (Shell) ATF+4. Nothing else, no additives.

- If the front or rear cradles are out of whack, even just a little bit, you'll definitely get a vibration. However, I would expect to see unusual drivetrain and possibly tire wear, if that were the case.

- Many of the components you've replaced must be torqued with the full weight of the vehicle on them at rest. Unfortunately, many shops will torque everything up before lowering the car, which puts a preload on these items. Generally, this caused premature wear, but it could result in a vibration. These would be UCA's/LCA's, engine/transmission mounts, cradle mounts, among others.

- An improperly indexed or improperly balanced driveshaft will definitely vibrate.

- An intermittent misfire at higher RPM will cause a vibration. Not unusual with the V8, especially if you've got a lifter misbehaving or a cam lobe that's being reshaped by said lifter.

- A poorly mounted body panel (bumper cover/air damage, etc) will cause a bizarre vibration.

I'd put the parts shotgun on "safety", and start looking into these potential problem(s).
 
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I guess you're not afraid to spend money and that you are driven crazy by vibrations. So you did do the driveshaft? Was it as a whole replacement along with the center bearing that is not a replacement part? Have you road-force balanced the tires? That's all I've got for you.
Hi,
I did indeed swap out the entire rear drive shaft complete with center bearing as an entire unit. The tires were not road force balanced. I did purchase new tires and even with a completely new set of tires the vibration issue is exactly the same.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
I can think of a couple things you haven't indicated:

- Torque converter shudder. Not uncommon, generally caused by incorrect transmission fluid. For the 2011-13 models, whether it's a 645RE or the A580, they require Mopar (Shell) ATF+4. Nothing else, no additives.

- If the front or rear cradles are out of whack, even just a little bit, you'll definitely get a vibration. However, I would expect to see unusual drivetrain and possibly tire wear, if that were the case.

- Many of the components you've replaced must be torqued with the full weight of the vehicle on them at rest. Unfortunately, many shops will torque everything up before lowering the car, which puts a preload on these items. Generally, this caused premature wear, but it could result in a vibration. These would be UCA's/LCA's, engine/transmission mounts, cradle mounts, among others.

- An improperly indexed or improperly balanced driveshaft will definitely vibrate.

- An intermittent misfire at higher RPM will cause a vibration. Not unusual with the V8, especially if you've got a lifter misbehaving or a cam lobe that's being reshaped by said lifter.

- A poorly mounted body panel (bumper cover/air damage, etc) will cause a bizarre vibration.

I'd put the parts shotgun on "safety", and start looking into these potential problem(s).
Thank you for the input, much appreciated!
 
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