My D has 170k km and when stopped at light there seems to be a miss causing the vehicle to shake. It is fine at highway speeds. I googled it and the search indicated may need to clean TBC and IAC. Not sure how exactly to do this or if this is where to start. I was originally going to change the plugs. Any ideas or instructions on cleaning if that is correct?
06 Durango 5.7 Hemi RE: Miss at idle
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It sounds like the throttle body for sure. But scan for codes first is best, like the other guys said.
You only need that tool I showed you if you are going to remove the sensors without removing the exhaust. But the long chromium one is handy when you have exhaust pipes out. I never used the other one on any car yet.
You can just buy an ELM reader and Torque Pro app on your phone for like $20 at most. That will give you the codes and live data for your O2 sensor to know which one is playing up.
I rarely have to use another scan tool. Best $20 I ever spent.
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Just plug it in near the handbrake release. Link it with Bluetooth.
After you scan for codes, tap the code, and it will take you to an online explanation of the code, causes and fixes in detail.
You only need that tool I showed you if you are going to remove the sensors without removing the exhaust. But the long chromium one is handy when you have exhaust pipes out. I never used the other one on any car yet.
You can just buy an ELM reader and Torque Pro app on your phone for like $20 at most. That will give you the codes and live data for your O2 sensor to know which one is playing up.
I rarely have to use another scan tool. Best $20 I ever spent.
Just plug it in near the handbrake release. Link it with Bluetooth.
After you scan for codes, tap the code, and it will take you to an online explanation of the code, causes and fixes in detail.
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I replaced the plugs and cleaned the TB. That wasn't very much fun but it is done. Two of the cy
linders had oil on the plug threads.
Can you remind me of the tool you showed me, I only saw the set of 3. Also where did you get the reader? I have one that plugs into my labtop but I don't think the software is very good. Going to do this job at a later date once I make sure D is running good after plugs and TB cleaning.
linders had oil on the plug threads.
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22mm the one with an offset and looks like a torx bit goes in it.
You can buy those readers off eBay or AliExpress.
Right, oil on the plugs. Needs new valve cover seals then. Change the gaskets and the ring ones seal off the spark plug wells. Good job on getting in there and fixing it.
You can buy those readers off eBay or AliExpress.
Right, oil on the plugs. Needs new valve cover seals then. Change the gaskets and the ring ones seal off the spark plug wells. Good job on getting in there and fixing it.
Those ELM readers are good for basic information, but I would get a better one if you plan to use it regularly. I used the $300 Bosch scanner on a car and it couldn't even pinpoint the issue on the ABS sensor on the hub. Apparently, it could only do domestics too, which we had. I spent $400 on my Innova 7111 and it works much better. It can even read the history of the factory radio, such as when a CD doesn't play.
The downside of having a decent scanner is that everyone you know will ask you to scan their cars for them. At least they aren't also asking me to fix the issues for them. lol
The downside of having a decent scanner is that everyone you know will ask you to scan their cars for them. At least they aren't also asking me to fix the issues for them. lol
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I'd agree that the PCV is an unlikely cause, but I'd sure change it anyway. Are you seeing any strange indications from the oil idiot light? If not, I'd run a compression check to assess cylinder health. Could be a lifter(s) going south, or a valve seat getting ready to drop.
I'd agree that the PCV is an unlikely cause, but I'd sure change it anyway. Are you seeing any strange indications from the oil idiot light? If not, I'd run a compression check to assess cylinder health. Could be a lifter(s) going south, or a valve seat getting ready to drop.
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No oil idiot light. Sounds pretty serious, I don't have any tools for a compression check. The D runs fine other than at idle. Floor it and it goes. There is an exhaust leak because two of the manifold bolts are broken. Is it time to replace the D? Used and new D's are sooo expensive though. I bought this 11 years ago for $10k cdn with 75k km on it. So it was 7yrs old. Now a 7yr old D with similar mileage if you can find one is triple that price. I only use it around 10k km per year. Just need something to pull my boat and a second short distance vehicle.
Mine is prone to stall at short stops. I suspect that it has a defective torque converter. I have just adapted my driving habit to come to a rolling stop, which will kick it out of gear when it sticks. I still think you need to invest in a good scanner. Not only will it help solve this issue, but it will pay for itself on your other vehicles.
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Could you make a video of these sounds, and post a link to it here? If it's only an exhaust leak, that's not a huge deal unless the sound or CE light (if on) bothers you.
For me, I could not stand an exhaust leak. My rides might not look great, but they run and sound like they should.
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For me, I could not stand an exhaust leak. My rides might not look great, but they run and sound like they should.
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Fix the exhaust leak and see what happens for sure. There is nothing to it. They are broken in all of them, and it is a quick and easy job. Pull the wheels and splash guards off and go in through the sides. Soak everything righteuosly with WD 40 the day before and apply a bit of heat with a pencil flame, and whatever bolts are remaining can be removed. Bit of left right action on those big ones bolt the exhaust pipe to the manifold, with repeated sprayings, is the trick.
If one is busted off flush in the motor, you only have to go so far as to get the left hand drill bit on them, and they come right out.
If one is busted off flush in the motor, you only have to go so far as to get the left hand drill bit on them, and they come right out.
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Will a better scanner tell me more information than I collected? I'm not understanding as my reader gets the codes and the software tells me the problem.
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What is key dance?
I didn't see that you had one. Are you able to graph the voltage from the o2 sensors with live data?
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Not sure if I can look at the voltage with live data, I will check. I have an ODB reader that plugs into USB port on laptop and have ScanXL software.
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