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We just traded our '14 DD-RT in for an '18 DD-SRT, primarily for the additional tow capacity up from 7200 to 8700 lbs. I don't think we really needed the extra motor but what the heck..

We'll have our first towing trip with trailer (6500 lb trailer empty) later this week, but just went for about a 100 mile drive yesterday with no trailer and found this new SRT really wanders on a rutted freeway - much more so than did our RT. First thought is it's the wider, perhaps stickier tires. It's quite disconcerting though as our primary reason to buy it is for towing. Kind of defeats the purpose of having having hopefully a more stable platform with higher weight loads, if it wanders all over the road. :-( Anyone else experience this?

66Nova, Have you noticed your SRT wandering around on slightly rutted freeway conditions? Wondering if that's just how it is, or if we have something else wrong.

We had put 37K on the DD-RT, with about 6K of those towing about 7k pounds with a blue ox weight dist hitch. Seemed to do fine. Hoping this SRT it better.
 
Remember when towing that much weight and something that has billboard sides, they tend to man handle smaller tow viehicles.
 
Your '14 had hydraulic steering while the '18 SRT as well as R/T now have electric steering.
No change even when you adjusted the steering settings?
Good question - we didn't play around with the steering setting yesterday and should have done that to experiment. It was on the "street" setting. There are also Track and Sport settings, which I don't know what they do from mechanical perspective. Will try them on a rutty road and see if there's a diff.

Thanks for the idea.
 
Remember when towing that much weight and something that has billboard sides, they tend to man handle smaller tow viehicles.
We have an Airstream, so not quite billboard, but I get your point. We have already towed this trailer, with blue ox weight distribution, with our '14 DD-RT for 6K miles so already have a decent feel for the combination. Just hoping the SRT is even better with the additional margin, and whatever else they did that's supposed to help towing (we don't plan to put more stuff in the trailer).

We'll put about 1500 miles on the SRT, with trailer, this coming [long] weekend so will be able to have some more comparison opinions after that.

We prefer to travel with this SUV, versus a big monster diesel truck, because it's so much more maneuverable in tight quarters, and when we unhook we have a more car-like, drive-able vehicle that we can maneuver, park, etc.. The main reason though is that the other 80% of the time it's a safe, daily driver for my wife. She doesn't want to be driving a monster truck every day.
 
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We just traded our '14 DD-RT in for an '18 DD-SRT, primarily for the additional tow capacity up from 7200 to 8700 lbs. I don't think we really needed the extra motor but what the heck..

We'll have our first towing trip with trailer (6500 lb trailer empty) later this week, but just went for about a 100 mile drive yesterday with no trailer and found this new SRT really wanders on a rutted freeway - much more so than did our RT. First thought is it's the wider, perhaps stickier tires. It's quite disconcerting though as our primary reason to buy it is for towing. Kind of defeats the purpose of having having hopefully a more stable platform with higher weight loads, if it wanders all over the road. :-( Anyone else experience this?

66Nova, Have you noticed your SRT wandering around on slightly rutted freeway conditions? Wondering if that's just how it is, or if we have something else wrong.

We had put 37K on the DD-RT, with about 6K of those towing about 7k pounds with a blue ox weight dist hitch. Seemed to do fine. Hoping this SRT it better.


I really have not had too many issues with it wondering.

It does have fat tires, so a little is to be expected. I wonder a couple things. 1. Is which tires do you have? The 4 season or the 3 season? I have heard the 3 season wonder quite badly on anything other than good roads. Also, the run flats are more prone to it with the firmer sidewalls. 2. Do you have the tech package? I have noticed that the lane assist can track repairs in the road sometimes and pull it one way or another.

I do have the 4 season Pirellis vs the 3, but I can say that even with a somewhat huge trailer I was extremely confident the entire trip.

I’m sure I do not know everything that is adjusted when in Tow Mode, but I know steering, suspension, shift points, active noise canceling and trailer anti sway are all adjusted/activated. Along with having a good weight distribution hitch and antisway brake (along with proper tire pressure and good brake controller) I was very very happy with how this thing towed.

One thing I was concerned with was noise level and my wife and 4 kids. My wife was shocked at how comfortable it was. The active noise canceling actually works very well. The stock DSRT exhaust is fairly noisy, but quiets down substantially when in tow mode.


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I really have not had too many issues with it wondering.

It does have fat tires, so a little is to be expected. I wonder a couple things. 1. Is which tires do you have? The 4 season or the 3 season? I have heard the 3 season wonder quite badly on anything other than good roads. Also, the run flats are more prone to it with the firmer sidewalls. 2. Do you have the tech package? I have noticed that the lane assist can track repairs in the road sometimes and pull it one way or another.

I do have the 4 season Pirellis vs the 3, but I can say that even with a somewhat huge trailer I was extremely confident the entire trip.

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We have the Pirelli Zero Run Flat - 295/45ZR20 (110Y) I googled it and it says not intended for snow/ice. So it must be a 3 season tire.
I went to Les Scwab today and they said it's a very soft, grabby, performance tire. I debated spending the $1200 to replace them now with some 4-season Toyos, but we'll go on our trip this week and try the different modes and see how they do. May as well use them for the summer and maybe replace in the fall.

We do have the tech package with lane assist, but I don't think that was causing this problem. That is one thing else can can try though - that is, to disable it when we feel the ruts to see if it helps.

thanks for the replies everyone.
 
The main reason though is that the other 80% of the time it's a safe, daily driver for my wife. She doesn't want to be driving a monster truck every day.
Your wife wants a safe daily driver and you got her a DSRT. Imagine what you'd get her if she said she wanted a performance vehicle! :)

Gary, I really think that the wandering you are feeling is more a feel and less a safety issue. While those sticky wide tires are not made for, and not ideal for, towing a good sized load they are IMO not going to get you into any kind of trouble. It's a hard balance, if the vehicle was doing a lot of towing I'd want tires more suited for the task but I wouldn't hesitate to just run the ones you have. They will likely only last 20,000 miles if you are towing thousands of miles on them anyway.
 
Your wife wants a safe daily driver and you got her a DSRT. Imagine what you'd get her if she said she wanted a performance vehicle! :)

Gary, I really think that the wandering you are feeling is more a feel and less a safety issue. While those sticky wide tires are not made for, and not ideal for, towing a good sized load they are IMO not going to get you into any kind of trouble. It's a hard balance, if the vehicle was doing a lot of towing I'd want tires more suited for the task but I wouldn't hesitate to just run the ones you have. They will likely only last 20,000 miles if you are towing thousands of miles on them anyway.
Yeah.. ;-) "Safe" as in a lot of metal around her. It really doesn't feel like a race car driving it, in any case. I'm pretty confident our little Audi A3 is quicker (it's not stock though - has about 360 HP and 350 Lb torque, not bad for a 4 cyl that gets 30 MPG on hwy :)).

I'm sure you are right on the wandering feel. Can probably live with it - we'll know after our first trailer trip this weekend.

Did some more research on these tires and they are a "summer" tire, and specifically not for snow. Silly tire to put on there in first place, for a practical vehicle sold in Oregon (we do get snow here). So I may need to replace them by fall, or that could take some of the "safe" out of "safe".

Great forum - thanks gang, we appreciate all the helpful replies.
 
Interesting on the tires. The SRT is certainly a performance oriented SUV, and as such they put some sticky low profile rubber on it. I might argue that based on the handling limits of the vehicle a good quality all season might come very close to handling as well as the "summer tires". I know some may disagree, I just think that as impressive the handling is in general for Durango's they are not going to push the limits of rubber as much as lighter, more nimble vehicles.
 
Thought I'd report on our first longish trip (1300 miles) with the SRT and compare to our '14 RT that we traded in, both towing the same 28' Airstream.

Weighed in at start of trip - with trailer loaded and hooked up with the Blue Ox weight distribution hitch (same one we used with the RT):
Front Durango: 3000 lbs
Rear Durango: 3700 lbs
So total on Durango SRT: 6700 lbs
Loaded weight of trailer: 6100 lbs (again, this was while hooked up to the Durango, so some of the trailer weight was on the Durango itself) I did not unhook and weigh the trailer by itself. This model empty is 5900 lbs, with no water. I had full fresh water 39 gals, so +300 lbs right there, plus all our "stuff".

Even with the occasionally wandering tires on the Durango (felt this only on the most rutted roads) the SRT was noticeably more sure footed and better at towing our Airstream, particularly at higher speeds. Note that I was totally comfortable towing it with the RT too. (I double checked and we had put 8K miles on the RT+Airstream combo, not 6K as I previously reported.)

With the RT, we would set our cruise at 63 mph - we would occasionally go higher to pass, but that was our max comfortable cruising speed.
With the SRT, on this trip, we set cruise at 68 mph, and it felt even more sure than the RT at 63. The fastest I went was about 73-74 passing someone and it felt totally stable. Going over 70 with the RT was much more of a white knuckle experience. On the SRT, no anxiety at all going that fast.

The RT did get a little over 11 mpg @ 63 mph.
The SRT got about 10 mpg @ 68 mph (so 8% faster for about +10% fuel consumed). I didn't have the patience to see the mileage on the SRT @ 63 mph.

I tried different steering modes on the SRT, when we got into rutty roads - didn't notice any difference. I did find by the end of the trip the wandering on the rutty roads didn't even bother me any more. Decided I will wear these tires out, and then replace with 4 season versions that aren't so soft and grabby.

I liked on the SRT that adaptive cruise control doesn't get too aggressive if you hit a hill and slow down 2-4 mph, it doesn't immediately downshift and burn fuel to maintain speed. There's a delay on that which seems to be more fuel efficient. When on single lane highways, due to construction, I would manual shift into 7th gear and it would maintain speed better, so cars behind me wouldn't curse me due to unsteady speed.

We usually took the steep hills in 6th gear, at near full speed, with occasion use of 5th gear on the very steepest hills. i would slow on these to about 63 mph, if it went into 5th gear. The big motor pulled very well - noticeably more torquey than the RT (which had the v8 hemi). With the RT, we usually ended up in 4th gear on the biggest hills, and had to reduce speed more.

The SRT is louder, but it didn't bother us. We didn't notice a bit of difference in sound when in Tow mode with noise cancelling on, versus in Auto mode with it off (supposedly).

I like the seats on the SRT better - they are a bit softer on my butt for the long hauls, maybe due to micro-fiber, although we really didn't complain about RT seats even though the leather is a little firmer.

We like the more "stick-like" gear shifter on the SRT, versus the rotating knob on the RT (which was never intuitive for me, even after 4 years with it).

We do have to put "92" in the SRT where we could get by with mid-grade in the RT, so this is more expensive to drive.

Overall - we are happy with the additional "margin" (on weights) we have with the SRT towing our Airstream. Really a nice combination and it gives us a more car-like vehicle when we arrive at destinations, and my wife a better daily driver, versus if we had a monster truck. If money were more of a factor, we could have lived with the RT (it worked fine for 8k miles with this trailer and we didn't know the difference), but we were blessed to be able to do this upgrade and we think for us it was a good call.
 
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We put another 12K miles of towing on this Durango SRT and thought I'd give an update on tires & wheels.

First, we did another trailer trip of about 3K miles with the stock wheels/tires (Pirelli Zero Run Flat - 295/45ZR20 (110Y) ). We confirmed that that SRT definitely is better than our '14 RT for towing, but the grabbiness of the tires did finally wear on us. Well, after 15K miles they were about done anyway (those were the shortest lived tires we're ever had and I would never buy them again, btw).

We were about to embark on an 8K mile trip from Oregon up into Canada rockies then all the way over to Quebec, Maine and back through northern US and decided that we would get narrower wheels with all-terrain tires.
We installed these wheels (See Pic) Niche 20x9 5-5 M117, and tires: Nitto Terra Grappler G2 P265/50R-20 111S. The folks at our local Les Schwab did careful homework to make sure they would clear the larger Brembos.

I can't compare to any other tires but the stock Pirellis, but we are REALLY HAPPY with the change. The softer side walls make them a smoother ride and they don't grab the ruts like the Pirellis did. We have put about 10K miles on them so far, with 8k of those towing a 6K lb. trailer. We felt stable at any speed we were willing to go with the trailer, usually not exceeding 70 mph for long distances, but did pass at higher speeds. There's no lack of motor, that's for sure. We were initially concerned that the tires being all-weather might be noisy, but they were not noticeably noisy at all. We never even had a conversation about tire noise - didn't come up. Could there be quieter tires out there? Likely. But these will work great in rain/snow too. They are way better for towing than the stock tires, in our opinion.
 
Thank you for your extended testing and thorough comparisons. Having been a puller for several decades towing with several Burbans, few Brbndzl 2500's & a couple Roadmaster Wagens later I came across a 14 RT Plus RWD November 2019. What a Fabulous Werk Tow Haul Carry Drag Pull Play & Perform Platform That Looks Feels & Handles Great Doin It!! 15000 miles later have the paddles pretty well down and OMG you can plant the rear anywhere you want it!! Talk about Steer with the rear and in a Station Wagen...
Time for tires and riding Michelins since the early 70's, the original forteras sukt.. Dealer said Warranty does not allow 3.70 rear gear out of SRT, also wanted to reshoe with Michelin Extra Loads. Extra loads Not Available from Michelin in OEM 265/50/20 size... Are Available in 255/50/20 and 275/45/20... Did the math and the 275s being smaller diameter than 255s not enough to foul the abs system bought pair of each size in Premier LTX line... Accomplished some gear ratio advantage with smaller diameter, especially with 275s in rear she really squats & hooks. More stability with extra load rating for pulling with H rated tires on SK boat trailers...Tires Handle great wet or dry not noisy, will go with 275s all the way round next time .. Will probably Performance mod 5.7 and regear when warranty is gone vs AWD with 6.4..DRNGD is Way Too Damn Much Fun with RWD... Now The AWD Durango Hellcat.. You'll have to put Brembos & 20's on the Ol Stream!
 
I have no idea what you just said. You either have a 14 RT RWD or a 21 SRT but I can't make heads or tails of what you have. If you have a 14 RT then there is zero factory warranty on it, I would think.
 
Sorry Tin Foil Hat. Bought my 14 DDRT+ pre owned in November 2019 with Maxcare extended warranty. Michelin Premier LTX Extra Load 275/45VR20XL are Great tires as I drive this like I stole it all the time. 7/10 inch Smaller diameter gives quicker acceleration and more stability which is plus for towing at high speed. My SK boat trailers all have H speed rated or higher tires on them. My consumption is a gallon every 11-11.6 miles.. Smiles per Gallon 16 Candles
 
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