I have a 5.2 D that's a dog compared to my brother's 99 Grand Cherokke with the 5.9. I have some extra cash so what should I get. the most bang for the buck. I have a Flowmaster Super 44 coming in. What next?
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I have a 5.2 D that's a dog compared to my brother's 99 Grand Cherokke with the 5.9. I have some extra cash so what should I get. the most bang for the buck. I have a Flowmaster Super 44 coming in. What next?
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Question on is how much are you looking to gain and how much are you looking to spend? Answer this question and we'll be better able to guide you.
- Jet chip in Dodge circles doesn't work that well. Mopar PCM (hard to come by now), Superchips programmer or Hypertech programmer are worthwhile at around $400.
- Intake as in K&N or as in M1 manifold? K&N or other intake is wothwhile. M1 is expensive and you should have other things around it. TB, intake, computer. A cam can yield gains but is expensive when you factor in tear down time and cost. There are other things that may be more worthwhile.
- TB is worthwhile. It'll yield a small gain.
- Jet chip in Dodge circles doesn't work that well. Mopar PCM (hard to come by now), Superchips programmer or Hypertech programmer are worthwhile at around $400.
- Intake as in K&N or as in M1 manifold? K&N or other intake is wothwhile. M1 is expensive and you should have other things around it. TB, intake, computer. A cam can yield gains but is expensive when you factor in tear down time and cost. There are other things that may be more worthwhile.
- TB is worthwhile. It'll yield a small gain.
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Unfortunately you'll need to pick up an addittional 100 hp or so due to weight difference and cubic inch giveaway.
His Jeep with the 5.9 was Top Dog SUV in its day for power.
Start with a Fastman Tb, Nice Exhaust free flowing, and a Superchips but you may still come up short. I think you'll need some real nice Top End touches + a Custome Flash to do the trick(heads, cam, M1 intake)
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His Jeep with the 5.9 was Top Dog SUV in its day for power.
Start with a Fastman Tb, Nice Exhaust free flowing, and a Superchips but you may still come up short. I think you'll need some real nice Top End touches + a Custome Flash to do the trick(heads, cam, M1 intake)
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will the super chips work for his 98 jeep
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For my party I have a friend that to a small preparation with a Hypertech on are D' I felt a difference in comparison with my D' that not the step.
I have simply a silent Magnaflow, a filter KN, and a new programming of the PCM :!:
I hope to have soon the Throttle Bodies Fastman
Once I'd have to install the TB I'd give you new
If I arrive to have it :roll:
Denis.
I have simply a silent Magnaflow, a filter KN, and a new programming of the PCM :!:
I hope to have soon the Throttle Bodies Fastman
Once I'd have to install the TB I'd give you new
If I arrive to have it :roll:
Denis.
The problem with your question is that you'll get improved performance from all (but the Jet Chip) in combination with the others. A TB, manifold, Cam, Exhaust and PCM Flash from B&G will combine to give more than just the base numbers. They all work together as a group, but not as well singularly, although you'll notice some gain with each addition. Each one is a stepping stone to the complete package.
If you plan on the future mods of TB,intake, and cam, then don't waist your money on the programmer.
I did the bolt-ons, then the programmer, and got nothing except a higher gas bill to get rid of the ping.
Do the bolt-on's on stages.
CAI,TB,Intake,Headers,B&G Flash
I think you'll get better results this way
I did the bolt-ons, then the programmer, and got nothing except a higher gas bill to get rid of the ping.
Do the bolt-on's on stages.
CAI,TB,Intake,Headers,B&G Flash
I think you'll get better results this way
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so would it be smart to get the intake and cam. then the TB and cia. no sense in ripping off the TB and cia when gettin ghte new intake and cam.
also what's a good intake and cam.
also what's a good intake and cam.
Talk to the Fastman.
He's one of the site supporters, and very good to work with.
M-1 intake would be the way to go, and I think most everyone is running his TB that has changed over.
You can also do roller rockers instead of going with the cam swap, unless you're looking for bigger gains.
John
He's one of the site supporters, and very good to work with.
M-1 intake would be the way to go, and I think most everyone is running his TB that has changed over.
You can also do roller rockers instead of going with the cam swap, unless you're looking for bigger gains.
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the cam and in take seem easyier to me to do.
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Rockers are easy to do. For the cam you may have to take off the top end but there are people who have slid it in. At a minimum that means taking off the front cover, water pump, radiator etc. That's a bit more work that 10 bolts to remove the valve cover. Dan recommend to me the M1 with the 1.7 rockers. I was one of the first he did this way and recommends it.
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1. It doesn't matter. Whenever you install an intake and cam the TB and whatever intake (stock/cai) has to come off and that's the easy part of the job.paisley_tele said:
2. There really is only one bolt on intake and that's the M1. There's a modified stock intake (not worth much) and a modifed Edlelbrock (expensive) by Huges.
3. You didn't answer my first question on how much power you want and how much you're looking to spend. TB, M1, CAI and you're up close to 1500 for parts if you're doing it yourself. With the M1 because it make more top end, you're going to need to raise the shift point so add another few hundred for the computer. Cam will cost a lot more for the work.
I have pretty much the normal basic stuff which is around 60 hp over stock. You could change some of the the parts and get a little more.
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just looking for enough power to smoke 20"s. top end don't matter much I would want more torque. but a cam would give it more of a hot rod sound right.
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Depends on the cam and sound doesn't equal HP. Sure you can add a cam that lopes and burbles but unless it's right for the application, it may make your truck a dog. "enough to smoke 20's" isn't a useable parameter. HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND. Well in 2wd I can't smoke 20's so you'll need a lot more. You're talking heads, blower etc. $$$$ and while you're at it likely building up the engine.
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how much I have to spend it really not the question. I plan on over a period of time sinking money into it so 1500 or more I would say. is it worth trying to make power out of a 5.2 or should I find a 5.9 in the boneyard and build that up? will the current 5.2 tranny still work?
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I can get a 5.9 with 80k on it for $800. what else would I need to put it in. computer trannsy transfor case??
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