Picked up new R/T this morning!!

Viacondiablos · Oct 21, 2017

Spong said:
If you don't live in the rust belt then you don't need it. People are terribly mistaken when they think new cars don't need rust protection. I see vehicles less than 5 years old that already have visible surface rust. Meanwhile, my vehicles still look new after 10 years. I don't do the crappy dealer undercoating. I go to Ziebart with all of my vehicles. It's a small price to pay considering what you pay for the vehicle new.

I'm gonna look into this (Southern Ohio). I sold my 06 Ram to get the 17 RT D, and had nothing but trouble with the rust. Fortunately, a lot of the parts that were bad on the Ram are plastic on the D. But I'd like some more coverage on the underbody.

Spong · Oct 23, 2017

Viacondiablos said:
I'm gonna look into this (Southern Ohio). I sold my 06 Ram to get the 17 RT D, and had nothing but trouble with the rust. Fortunately, a lot of the parts that were bad on the Ram are plastic on the D. But I'd like some more coverage on the underbody.

It makes a difference. I don't think you can 100% rust "proof" a vehicle but undercoating along with fogging inside the panels does help. New vehicles do have considerably more plastic now but the parts that are metal seem thinner than ever and rust out pretty quickly!

Tweak · Oct 25, 2017

Any time you take a vehicle out in the winter you give it cancer, ESPECIALLY when salt is down.

Spong I wish you the best of luck with your engine. By the pic you posted over 100mph+ you did exactly opposite of what Chrysler says to do.

I know people that do that to Chrysler’s, it hardens the rings too fast giving issues like blow by from rings not seating before hardening or it makes that too hard and brittle. It’s not a GM with loose tolerances, Chrysler’s are tight. One of my employees broke in a 5.7l ram similar to you, rings failed, Chrysler looked in the computer and told him too bad user didn’t follow break in.

I included the manual page. First 300miles are only to be driven moderately.

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Spong · Oct 25, 2017

Tweak said:
Any time you take a vehicle out in the winter you give it cancer, ESPECIALLY when salt is down.

Spong I wish you the best of luck with your engine. By the pic you posted over 100mph+ you did exactly opposite of what Chrysler says to do.

I know people that do that to Chrysler’s, it hardens the rings too fast giving issues like blow by from rings not seating before hardening or it makes that too hard and brittle. It’s not a GM with loose tolerances, Chrysler’s are tight. One of my employees broke in a 5.7l ram similar to you, rings failed, Chrysler looked in the computer and told him too bad user didn’t follow break in.

I included the manual page. First 300miles are only to be driven moderately.

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I've broken in every new engine the same and they've all been great runners, including my 2010 Grand Caravan 4.0 and 2013 Chrysler T&C 3.6. Now with that said, if this Dodge can't handle it, then I'll sell it for a better vehicle! My Fords and GMs could handle it.

I've always been told by people that Dodges are "cheap" and I've ignored them. The first thing I noticed about this Durango was that, cheap! I installed the new Weathertech liners and I couldn't believe how thin and "cheap" the stock floormats were! I guess time will tell. If it turns out to be a POS then I'll trade it off and never buy another Dodge. I hope all my friends who told me NOT to buy a Durango are wrong!!

Tweak · Oct 25, 2017

The 5.7L can take tons of abuse but with every engine proper heat cycling is ESSENTIAL to be done right. How an engine is broke in determines the rest of its life.

All new cars are cheap in regards to things like floor mats. And I was talking about engine tolerances I have a 2016 F-150 that the engine wasn’t even sealed right from the factory. Leaked oil off the lot. And several Ford F-350s for my day job, all of them couldn’t exceed 80,000 miles without needing $2,500 turbos. So no brand is perfect.

I did expect the blaming the vehicle response. I mean if you don’t take care of something the way the engineers designed it to be, it’s obviously the fault of the vehicle being cheap.

But if you go in expecting to take abuse like an Abrams tank you will be let down by it.

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Spong · Oct 25, 2017

I don't abuse my vehicles, I'm actually extremely the opposite. I'm very OCD about my vehicles.

Simply cycling a fully warmed up engine at varying speeds and RPMs is far from "abuse". Now if I took it to the drag strip, then I would call that abuse! The small amount of driving I did that day was much nicer than someone test driving it.

BTW, not all new vehicles are cheap. I was just amazed at how flimsy the floor mats were for a $50k vehicle. Do the floor mats really matter? No, but they give you an overall perception of "cheap".

Tweak · Oct 25, 2017

Also if you don’t feel guilty or wrong in exceeding 100mph on a motor and transmission with less than 30miles why delete the picture? No worries I can assure you there is a record somewhere, once it’s on the internet it’s always on the internet.

Frankly I don’t care if you want to abuse your vehicle but I don’t like encouraging fellow members to also abuse the vehicle.

There is a person currently on here telling people to twist the true on a common part failure. That helps discredit all the other similar complaints that are also affected, because they lied.

And another that posted a video of the Durango being left in drive, then obviously pulling the wheel chock out from the front tire and saying the Durango shifted itself into gear. That raises fear of vehicle safety, raises the cost of insurance for everyone, and is in FACT insurance fraud.

I view this place and these members as my car family, I come to help others. I just wish people would quit crapping in the pool and pissing in the sink.

It’s also a sign of bad character to brag about doing something then trying to find it after you realized it was bad. It’s like hiding a body after you kill someone. But deleting the pic, you admitted guilt, then saying you didn’t abuse it (then why delete the pic?) is a blatant lie and back peddling.

I just wanted to point out to others correct break in. Then you started acting like you were running a political campaign and blaming others and trying to delete evidence off the server while insinuating Dodge is a basket of cheap cars.

Durangutan · Oct 25, 2017

Gryzor said:
To me Durangos are one of the best looking trucks out there even more so after this refresh.

Pssst!! They're not trucks!

But they have an awful nice looking front end, can't deny!

Spong · Oct 26, 2017

Durango at Ziebart today getting full rust-proofing. Installed Husky F&R mudflaps last night.

Roy · Mar 29, 2018

Spong said:
Durango at Ziebart today getting full rust-proofing. Installed Husky F&R mudflaps last night.

How much did they charge for rust-proofing? I see on their website they have rust proofing, and undercoating like 2 separate options. I need to get my Wrangler done (already surface rust with 300 miles) and debating on the Durango. Was never a fan, but the Ram dealer did my truck (and paint/interior protection... whatever that is)for $500 and the underside looks great compared to the trucks we haven't done. Midwest is not nice on vehicles. Any vehicle with a frame I would recommend doing. I am on the fence for the Durango since it's unibody.

Spong · Mar 29, 2018

Roy said:
How much did they charge for rust-proofing? I see on their website they have rust proofing, and undercoating like 2 separate options. I need to get my Wrangler done (already surface rust with 300 miles) and debating on the Durango. Was never a fan, but the Ram dealer did my truck (and paint/interior protection... whatever that is)for $500 and the underside looks great compared to the trucks we haven't done. Midwest is not nice on vehicles. Any vehicle with a frame I would recommend doing. I am on the fence for the Durango since it's unibody.

I always do the full rustproofing package which is undercoating and the gunk sprayed inside the panels and doors. It was around $500. I do this with every new vehicle even though I sometimes trade them off in 2-3 years. I always do them right away when new, before driving on a wet road so the underside is perfectly clean. My 2006 Trailblazer still looks great after 12 Midwest years. People think new vehicles don't "need" rust protection but I've seen undercarriages look horrible after just a couple winters. I figure you're spending so much $$$$ for a new vehicle, why not extend the life of it?

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