So the time has come for my first oil change and was just searching online to see which oil and oil filter is best for our hemi. I'm def going with Pennzoil synthetic and would like to stick with mopar oil filters. From looking online it looks like MO-899 is the stock filter for the R/T, but I was just looking at jeep and charger/challenger forums and noticed a lot of guys using SRT oil filters on their 5.7L. This is the part number (Genuine Mopar 5038041AA Oil Filter). From what I read it's a much better oem oil filter and works from hellcat to rt motors. Has anyone used this oil filter? Any possible issues I might have down the line? Thanks for all the help fellas
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So the time has come for my first oil change and was just searching online to see which oil and oil filter is best for our hemi. I'm def going with Pennzoil synthetic and would like to stick with mopar oil filters. From looking online it looks like MO-899 is the stock filter for the R/T, but I was just looking at jeep and charger/challenger forums and noticed a lot of guys using SRT oil filters on their 5.7L. This is the part number (Genuine Mopar 5038041AA Oil Filter). From what I read it's a much better oem oil filter and works from hellcat to rt motors. Has anyone used this oil filter? Any possible issues I might have down the line? Thanks for all the help fellas
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Its a Much better filter for OIL FLOW. I was told by an SRT engineer that that filter was designed for more flow but less filtration. Now you say why would an SRT Guy want less filtration, What it is, is that those filters are designed to see less miles between changes. Most Hellcats arent dailys and neither are most SRT's so the filter and oil most likely get changed on time interval rather than mileage. The stock Mopar filter is designed to accommodate normal mileage use so 7-10K miles where as the filtering capacity ability of that SRT Filter might only last 2-3K Miles. I asked if I should use them and his reply was quick "NO" Use the stock filter. I use the Stock but when I want something better I use a K & N Oil filter as they are a little better
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Thanks for that quick reply Steve. I'll be sticking with the stock filter.
Fastdango3; I found this post on a Viper site which claims the SRT filter offers more filtration....
Originally Posted by SRT Engineers View Post
FastZilla asked: "What are the differences between the "specially developed" "SRT" oil filter and the high quality after market offerings of Mobile 1, K&N, etc.
I have read posts that mention:
- filter housing thickness
- stronger bypass springs
- neoprene anti-back flow valve
- 3 ounces heavier than previous Mopar filter
- coarser filter media vs super-fine K&N (and the like)
There are tons of us here that really want and need to know the secret behind the "SRT" filter. I literally am losing sleep over it - I can't accept the SRT filter's superiority on a leap of faith.
We all want the very best for our Vipers - please help us understand the SRT filter.
Thanks in advance!"
The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine. Hope this info helps. KCC
Originally Posted by SRT Engineers View Post
FastZilla asked: "What are the differences between the "specially developed" "SRT" oil filter and the high quality after market offerings of Mobile 1, K&N, etc.
I have read posts that mention:
- filter housing thickness
- stronger bypass springs
- neoprene anti-back flow valve
- 3 ounces heavier than previous Mopar filter
- coarser filter media vs super-fine K&N (and the like)
There are tons of us here that really want and need to know the secret behind the "SRT" filter. I literally am losing sleep over it - I can't accept the SRT filter's superiority on a leap of faith.
We all want the very best for our Vipers - please help us understand the SRT filter.
Thanks in advance!"
The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine. Hope this info helps. KCC
However after looking up the oil change interval for a 6.4L Hemi or Hellcat it is 6K miles max vs our 5.7L Hemi max 10K.
So is it lower because of less filter capacity?
I think until the SRT filter is tested by a lab vs the standard Mopar filter probably best to keep the standard Mopar filter..unless you guys are tracking your Durango R/T's.
So is it lower because of less filter capacity?
I think until the SRT filter is tested by a lab vs the standard Mopar filter probably best to keep the standard Mopar filter..unless you guys are tracking your Durango R/T's.
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I ordered a couple of the SRT oil filters and I've used one of them. I went back to my regular Fram Ultra Synthetic filter at the next change. ordered the SRT filters off Amazon for pretty decent prices. here's a pic.
in my case I went with the SRT filter because I'm used to using over-sized or over-engineered filters from my days with the '01 Intrepid R/T 3.5L HO engine. someone back in the day figured out a late model Ford 5.0L filter would fit the threads and was bigger so had extra capacity. bingo. used those over-sized filters for years. I hadn't been able to identify an over-sized filter for the HEMI so I wanted to try an over-engineered one.
in the end, the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter has the textured grip so I could remove it without having to mangle the filter. the SRT filters are plain metal as shown in the pic and I just couldn't get the sucker off without mangling it. I'm sure a lot of you guys are used to those filters and can get them off just fine. it was a PITA for me though so I went back to the Fram.
personally, I do all my own oil changes and I'm not going to go over about 6k or 7k miles between changes. yes, I go by the service light but its too much of a habit for me. I 1) run only full synthetic and I 2) change the oil regularly. so when I read up on the SRT filters nothing looked like a red flag to me. but I ended up going back to my regular filter.
in my case I went with the SRT filter because I'm used to using over-sized or over-engineered filters from my days with the '01 Intrepid R/T 3.5L HO engine. someone back in the day figured out a late model Ford 5.0L filter would fit the threads and was bigger so had extra capacity. bingo. used those over-sized filters for years. I hadn't been able to identify an over-sized filter for the HEMI so I wanted to try an over-engineered one.
in the end, the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter has the textured grip so I could remove it without having to mangle the filter. the SRT filters are plain metal as shown in the pic and I just couldn't get the sucker off without mangling it. I'm sure a lot of you guys are used to those filters and can get them off just fine. it was a PITA for me though so I went back to the Fram.
personally, I do all my own oil changes and I'm not going to go over about 6k or 7k miles between changes. yes, I go by the service light but its too much of a habit for me. I 1) run only full synthetic and I 2) change the oil regularly. so when I read up on the SRT filters nothing looked like a red flag to me. but I ended up going back to my regular filter.
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I like the K&N because you can put a socket on it, Beyond that the better grade Fram or Pure one. Somewhere on this site somebody did find a Wix filter that was longer which offered better capacity.
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Actually Chase you have a quoted what I said I have added notes and Bolded the points
SIMPLY PUT THESE SRT ENGINES AND VIPER ENGINE HAVE WAY HIGHER OIL PRESSURE AT WOT AND REQUIRE MUCH STRONGER FILTER AND STRONGER SPRINGS BUT NOT AS LONG DUTY CYCLE
I just purchased an oil filter at the dealer for my 2016 R/T and they gave me an MO-339. I checked on some Mopar online parts sites and the MO-339 appeared to be correct. So which is really the correct filter the MO-899 or MO-339?
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I change my own oil every 6k and use the Pennzoil high mileage conventional motor oil and the Mopar oil filter from Walmart.
Have never used synthetic but, have been thinking about changing to the castrol magnetic synthetic one.
As of today my baby has 199,600 miles.
Have never used synthetic but, have been thinking about changing to the castrol magnetic synthetic one.
As of today my baby has 199,600 miles.
MoparOnline told me the MO-339 is the correct Mopar Oil Filter for the 2016 Hemi
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Were you able to find anything on this?
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I use a Purolator PureOne filter and Pennzoil Platinum in all my vehicles, based on evidence and empirical data at various oil junkie sites.
The problem I've always had with OEM filters is that you never know what you're going to get. The OEM doesn't make them themselves, they contract with filter manufacturers to make them, and surely are going to go with the lowest bid to manufacture the filter to specifications. I'll pay a couple bucks more and get a premium filter that's been vetted by those in the know, personally.
The problem I've always had with OEM filters is that you never know what you're going to get. The OEM doesn't make them themselves, they contract with filter manufacturers to make them, and surely are going to go with the lowest bid to manufacture the filter to specifications. I'll pay a couple bucks more and get a premium filter that's been vetted by those in the know, personally.
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