Just installed the mopar intake on the 14 durango r/t. Couple questions. First off, the plastic clip on the washer resovoir, how do you get it off? Right now I just have the heat shield without that bracket. Next is the m8 bolt for the bracket on the actual inlet tube appears to be too short, anyone else have this happen? Looks like I just need to get a longer bolt.
Mopar intake install issues
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Not that I can see. Engine sounds better. Engine bay looks better. Those two benefits alone were worth the expense. My average MPG has remained around 18-19MPG combined.
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Just because the bracket is loose for the PS reservoir it should not be leaking. Check and make sure the hose clamp is not loose or you did not crack the reservoir. Did you tighten it down super tight when you put it back together or something? If so it is possible you might have cracked it. I don't have my D yet to look at for comparison so it is hard for me to tell if the bracket off the side of the reservoir is an integrated piece of plastic or it is something separate.
Don't keep running the truck with little to no fluid, you are going to burn something up. Figure out where it is leaking and try to fix it.
Like was said, take some close up pictures of the reservoir so we can see what you have going on.
Ok, I'll post a picture soon. It's at the bracket not the actual resovoir. I will be getting it towed to the dealer in the morning if I can get this fixed. Not running it anymore due to very very low fluid. Btw, anyone know which fluid we use? Think its ATF +4.
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Espi,
Ok, like I said, I don't have mine yet to look at for reference but I believe you are showing a picture of your Power steering pump. I see a black hose at the top with a constant pressure clamp on it attached to a silver 90 degree elbow tube going to the pump. Where this piece meets the pump it is somewhat elliptical and it looks like there is a bolt missing. Was this like this or did you remove a bolt from this location when installing the CAI? That is not a bracket. It is the connection to the PS pump. If you removed a bolt from that location put it back in. I am assuming this is where you are talking about it leaking. Kind of hard to determine from your pic.
Also, you don't have to get it towed. Put Mopar ATF+4 (or equivalent), that is the proper fluid for the PS system. If it got super low and and has air in the system it may feel weird when moving the steering back and forth. Simply leave the cap loose and, it fill it to proper level (engine off) and turn the steering back and forth (engine running) slowly from lock to lock and it should force the air out if it got that low. Turn the engine off and check the fluid for correct level.
Ok, like I said, I don't have mine yet to look at for reference but I believe you are showing a picture of your Power steering pump. I see a black hose at the top with a constant pressure clamp on it attached to a silver 90 degree elbow tube going to the pump. Where this piece meets the pump it is somewhat elliptical and it looks like there is a bolt missing. Was this like this or did you remove a bolt from this location when installing the CAI? That is not a bracket. It is the connection to the PS pump. If you removed a bolt from that location put it back in. I am assuming this is where you are talking about it leaking. Kind of hard to determine from your pic.
Also, you don't have to get it towed. Put Mopar ATF+4 (or equivalent), that is the proper fluid for the PS system. If it got super low and and has air in the system it may feel weird when moving the steering back and forth. Simply leave the cap loose and, it fill it to proper level (engine off) and turn the steering back and forth (engine running) slowly from lock to lock and it should force the air out if it got that low. Turn the engine off and check the fluid for correct level.
Blkdrt,
Thanks. I tried putting the bolt back on. Took it off because that is where the inlet tube for the cai attaches. Unfortunately, that fin bolt won't tighten down properly. Feels stripped but not sure. It's crazy because its only the first time the bolt came out. I have the fluid to put in, but without the bolt tightening down, the fluid leaks everywhere. So frustrated.
Thanks. I tried putting the bolt back on. Took it off because that is where the inlet tube for the cai attaches. Unfortunately, that fin bolt won't tighten down properly. Feels stripped but not sure. It's crazy because its only the first time the bolt came out. I have the fluid to put in, but without the bolt tightening down, the fluid leaks everywhere. So frustrated.
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Ok, I found the instructions for the CAI and see that bolt was to be removed and replaced with another one, that obviously is missing from the used CAI you got.
If you move the bracket for the CAI out of the way, will the original bolt go back in and tighten down? If so, you are ok and have not buggered the threads on the pump housing. From looking at the instructions there is another bolt, longer than the one that is in there to accommodate the extra thickness of the CAI bracket. If you measure the thickness of the bracket (washer if that is part of the install) that should give you a good idea on how much longer of a bolt you need.
Take the original bolt to either a Lowes or auto parts store and figure out what the thread count is an whether is metric or standard. Then look for the proper length bolt in the proper thread count that matches the original bolt. If you are trying to use the original bolt to tighten it down over top of the CAI bracket it is not going to be long enough and will not catch the threads.
Are we closer now to the problem you are having?
If you move the bracket for the CAI out of the way, will the original bolt go back in and tighten down? If so, you are ok and have not buggered the threads on the pump housing. From looking at the instructions there is another bolt, longer than the one that is in there to accommodate the extra thickness of the CAI bracket. If you measure the thickness of the bracket (washer if that is part of the install) that should give you a good idea on how much longer of a bolt you need.
Take the original bolt to either a Lowes or auto parts store and figure out what the thread count is an whether is metric or standard. Then look for the proper length bolt in the proper thread count that matches the original bolt. If you are trying to use the original bolt to tighten it down over top of the CAI bracket it is not going to be long enough and will not catch the threads.
Are we closer now to the problem you are having?
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I went back to the instructions I found for the CAI and have also provided a link for you if you do not have them. The bolt you are missing is part P, a M8 x 16mm bolt. Steps Q and R in the below instructions reference this step.
Here is a link to the instructions if you do not have them already.
http://www.moparonlineparts.com/docs/77070041.pdf
Guessing you are looking for something that looks like this:
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/M8_1_25_x_16mm_Hex_Flange_Bolt_Large_O_D_Class_p/pm34089.htm
Here is a link to the instructions if you do not have them already.
http://www.moparonlineparts.com/docs/77070041.pdf
Guessing you are looking for something that looks like this:
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/M8_1_25_x_16mm_Hex_Flange_Bolt_Large_O_D_Class_p/pm34089.htm
Well, got it all filled and bolted up and still leaks. Seems like there is still some play in the bolt. Guess it is stripped. Is there a certain way to reinstall the power steering pump bracket? Does it need to be bled and then installed? At a loss here.
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As long as you got it in there and it is not leaking PS fluid anymore is all that matters.
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The 20mm bolt is probably to long. Are you able to tighten down the original factory bolt? If you can then the thread is not messed up. If you can't you messed up the threads with that other mystery bolt you used. You have a couple options at this point.
1. If you are lucky, you can clean the threads out with the correct tap that matches the proper thread count and type. M8
2. If there is too much material gone because some other bolt was forced in there then you can try and run a tap through the hole to the proper depth using the next size up, still using the same thread count. That way you are just making it a little bigger.
3. You have to drill out the hole and put a Helicoil in it that is of the proper size and thread count as was in there. I am guessing it is M8 x 1.25 x (whatever depth the hole is). 1.25 is the thread count. You have to confirm that though.
4. If you have to drill out the hole because the threads are to far gone, you can for go the Helicoil and just use a tap to make it whatever size you want and then get the appropriate bolt to match.
Keep in mind. I am going off what you are telling me, so it is difficult to be certain what you have going on. From what you are describing it sounds like you have installed the improper size bolt and stripped the threads in the PS pump housing. That would explain why the bolts will not hold any longer.
1. If you are lucky, you can clean the threads out with the correct tap that matches the proper thread count and type. M8
2. If there is too much material gone because some other bolt was forced in there then you can try and run a tap through the hole to the proper depth using the next size up, still using the same thread count. That way you are just making it a little bigger.
3. You have to drill out the hole and put a Helicoil in it that is of the proper size and thread count as was in there. I am guessing it is M8 x 1.25 x (whatever depth the hole is). 1.25 is the thread count. You have to confirm that though.
4. If you have to drill out the hole because the threads are to far gone, you can for go the Helicoil and just use a tap to make it whatever size you want and then get the appropriate bolt to match.
Keep in mind. I am going off what you are telling me, so it is difficult to be certain what you have going on. From what you are describing it sounds like you have installed the improper size bolt and stripped the threads in the PS pump housing. That would explain why the bolts will not hold any longer.
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When you say it won't stay tight, what exactly does this mean?
You put a wrench on it and it just keeps spinning and never gets to the point where it is tight?
You tighten it with a wrench and it loosens up on it's own?
When you are putting the bolt in with nothing. It may be bottoming out in the hole, not really grabbing the threads per se. If you look in the hole on the pump do you see metal shavings or jagged edges on the upper part of the threads?
You may have cross threaded it. When you first tried to put the bolt in when you installed the CAI, was it difficult to get the bolt back in. Meaning did you have to force the bolt to thread in the hole at all?
You put a wrench on it and it just keeps spinning and never gets to the point where it is tight?
You tighten it with a wrench and it loosens up on it's own?
When you are putting the bolt in with nothing. It may be bottoming out in the hole, not really grabbing the threads per se. If you look in the hole on the pump do you see metal shavings or jagged edges on the upper part of the threads?
You may have cross threaded it. When you first tried to put the bolt in when you installed the CAI, was it difficult to get the bolt back in. Meaning did you have to force the bolt to thread in the hole at all?
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